Major 1650 sandbagging by a forum member

... like poor Patrick ... We should instead make them feel really bad about it because they have theoretically reduced competition by approximately 12% in their heat.And, in my case, only 11% because the heat was mis-seeded and I got stuck in lane 9. Not that anyone else in the heat particularly cared or even noticed ...I dutifully talked with the swimmer in lane 8 and she was appreciative of me letting her know. And, for the record, the time was NOT sandbagged. I actually went much slower (without disrupting the heat). So, what's that make me? A failed sandbagger? I don't think so ... I see myself as someone who was entered at my reasonably expected time and had a poor swim. So, come here not to bury poor Patrick, but to empathize with him for a situation we've all been in: having a bad swim.

And, for the record, the time was NOT sandbagged. I was referring to split requests, technically different than sandbagging. The fact is that you blew away the heat in the first 200, thereby compromising the supposedly highly sought after perfect racing environment and drawing the ire of the purists. I did the same in my heat of the 200 free at NE SCM Champs, when I did a 100 split. Of course, I told the women in adjacent lanes (who said they didn't mind at all) and times were all over the place in my heat. But still, I suppose castigation is nonetheless in order. The sport of running is immoral too. All those pacers (who drop out) helping a runner along to a record? How can the record holder even live with themselves knowing this was how they achieved it?

What a waste of bandwidth over entry times! The real issue we need to actually clamp down on is old geezers wearing polyester suits that have somehow survived intact since the mid 1970's, but which no longer have the required elasticity to hold the crown jewels out of sight! Here here! I think this is the first post in the thread where I have any clue what is being talked about. It's like I'm in another sport sometimes.

Again, we have to accomodate each other. At any meet with 200 people, there are 200 different goals even if they are along the same theme. I really don't care about sandbagging or what people are doing in the pool around me. It's nice to have the ideal race conditions, and again, that depends on what the race and what you are trying to do! I should start another silly thread on how it irks me no one else is split requesting in the lanes around me and how that's so wrong and that spilt requesting is the only bona fide goal in masters competition. TEE HEE HEE just kidding! No, what really irks me is that article in SWIMMER magazine about foods you should never eat or something like that. EVERY SINGLE food mentioned is a STAPLE in my diet, particularly SWEDISH FISH. Now, I do agree they aren't good for you, but the article is a rehash about everything we already KNOW. So stop writing dumb recycled articles, and the article should be HOW TO MODIFY or SUBSTITUTE items. I need jaadams to back my up on this, my McD soulmate. And there is some weird underground Swedish Fish diversity program going on. Nearly every store I go to has replaced the red bags with mixed colors. You can hardly get a full red bag and they look suspciously like old stock. And back to the thread, I don't mind sandbaggers at all. I suppose experience with many different things that could happen at a swim meet, and particularly with masters meets...it just doesn't phase me. If the timeline was off at a USA meet, I have totally different standard. I would expect it to be machine gun blasting military precision to the time line, and a check of touchpads or a falsestart heat with irk me! This is just some comic relief.

Why allow swimmers more opportunities to get more times without a beat down? I think Leslie might just be jealous. Since USMS doesn't swim 25s, she can't submit split requests in her 50s and slow down her heats by 0.5s... :) On a more serious note, sometime in the last couple years didn't a woman submit split requests for everything possible during a 1000 or 1650 and break all sorts of records along the way?

So, come here not to bury poor Patrick, but to empathize with him for a situation we've all been in: having a bad swim. i had a bad swim about 53 weeks ago. it was a 500. you were 2 lanes over i think. btw, nice job. why did you let that gator win?

I think Leslie might just be jealous. Since USMS doesn't swim 25s, she can't submit split requests in her 50s and slow down her heats by 0.5s... :) On a more serious note, sometime in the last couple years didn't a woman submit split requests for everything possible during a 1000 or 1650 and break all sorts of records along the way? Laura Val, during, in my opinion, the single greatest swim in masters history, swam a 1500 free setting 6 world records in the process: 50, 100, 200, 400, 800 and 1500 free. Setting records with foot touches; no problem.

So all we need is 6 more forumites to enter with 10:31.51 and we can have a special Kumbaya heat. I’m sure Elaine can get t-shirts for everyone. I plan to be within :10 of my seed time. And I never really liked Kumbaya.

Apparently they prefer the camaraderie of the slower heats. Poppycock. If that is so, swim fast enough to just out touch me instead of beating me in by 10 seconds. Maybe we need to indicate something on our entries like a "P" for the purists and all entry times must be fastest for past 2 years, and "D" for the demonic sandbaggers, where you enter what you like...that way we can keep the heats separated.

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