Lance not allowed to swim in masters competition

I was thinking of another scenario. Suppose you get fired at work for cause. Do you think it would be fair if there was some overarching "Employment Agency" that could then ban you from getting any kind of job ever again, based solely on their discretion? Hmm, I removed my analogy whilst editing my post. Analogies are often a great way to get lost. This analogy you're referring too (drunk driving) was my choice #2. The very first analogy that popped in my mind Knelson was much harder. Let me share it with you and try to defend it my best. You get fired at work because of a case of mild (very very mild all right?) pedophilia. Not talking raping a kid here, but those milder cases where child abuse was demonstrated. Could be repeated sports massage with little too much focus on glutes muscles. Could be voyeurisme in the locker room. You loose that job, and you may be condemned to find a new job which invloves staying away from kids. Sometimes this call will be overkill, sometimes not. Lance did abuse a lot of people, not just kids. I mean not 'just' kids, though he definitely abused them too. I just read Elain's post (in answer to a part I also removed from my original post). This is sensitive matter even for me, 20 y+ of experience coach. As you probably all know, we have a rider that won the Giro last year. I started working with a Cat1 cyclist recently, and couldn't help asking him: Ryder? Doped or not? I like to believe that it's possible to score a podium in a Grand Tour whilst being clean, but it's become increasingly harder to believe it. I was like you Elain, I would defend Lance as much as I could. But he abused us dammit. So again Knelson. Say that we allow him to compete. Say that he scores 15:20 over 1500m LCM at worlds. What the heck would your reaction be? My reaction would be the same as if another kid was again raising concerns after having received a sports massage given by this same person that got fired from his former job, but that still was allowed to give massages in another job.

I was thinking of another scenario. Suppose you get fired at work for cause. Do you think it would be fair if there was some overarching "Employment Agency" that could then ban you from getting any kind of job ever again, based solely on their discretion? Hmm, I removed my analogy whilst editing my post. Analogies are often a great way to get lost. This analogy you're referring too (drunk driving) was my choice #2. The very first analogy that popped in my mind Knelson was much harder. Let me share it with you and try to defend it my best. You get fired at work because of a case of mild (very very mild all right?) pedophilia. Not talking raping a kid here, but those milder cases where child abuse was demonstrated. Could be repeated sports massage with little too much focus on glutes muscles. Could be voyeurisme in the locker room. You loose that job, and you may be condemned to find a new job which invloves staying away from kids. Sometimes this call will be overkill, sometimes not. Lance did abuse a lot of people, not just kids. I mean not 'just' kids, though he definitely abused them too. I just read Elain's post (in answer to a part I also removed from my original post). This is sensitive matter even for me, 20 y+ of experience coach. As you probably all know, we have a rider that won the Giro last year. I started working with a Cat1 cyclist recently, and couldn't help asking him: Ryder? Doped or not? I like to believe that it's possible to score a podium in a Grand Tour whilst being clean, but it's become increasingly harder to believe it. I was like you Elain, I would defend Lance as much as I could. But he abused us dammit. So again Knelson. Say that we allow him to compete. Say that he scores 15:20 over 1500m LCM at worlds. What the heck would your reaction be? My reaction would be the same as if another kid was again raising concerns after having received a sports massage given by this same person that got fired from his former job, but that still was allowed to give massages in another job.