Breathing in and out of turns

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Former Member
When I was a kid, it was drilled into me to never breathe in and out of my turns - coaches were known to hand out sit-up penalties for any breathing spotted between the flags and the wall. Now that I don't have a coach, I've noticed that I tend to breathe going into the turn, though I take one arm stroke off the turn before I breathe. I was feeling sort of guilty about this, but I just watched the women's 800 free from London and I noticed that all the women (whose turns I could see) were breathing in and out of the turns. Is not breathing in and out of turns something like bilateral breathing (i.e. preached by youth coaches but not actually done by most elite swimmers)?
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  • Is not breathing in and out of turns something like bilateral breathing (i.e. preached by youth coaches but not actually done by most elite swimmers)? You remind me of how much fun I have biting my tongue when my daughter's coach makes her breathe every third stroke. However, to your point. It seems that many swimmers are breathing on the last stroke into the wall but then using the lower CO2 levels as a result to take an extra stroke on their breakout. I know I do. Of course, you have to keep your head low and work that breath in as well as possible. But you kind of point to a larger issue of things that we do in masters swimming that are non-optimal in terms of maximum possible speed but on the other we do because we are dealing with a limiter. Here's an example. Swimming a 200 fly, IF you can do the whole thing taking two strokes between breaths and NOT DIE, then that is the fastest way to do it. However, some of us need to be real with ourselves and accept that given our age and the time available to train, breathing every stroke allows us to NOT DIE when we swim. Breathing into and out of walls is another one. I think it would be best if we never breathed into or out of walls. However, the reality is that at best we get to pick one, either breathe into r out of the wall so we have to figure out which one.
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  • Is not breathing in and out of turns something like bilateral breathing (i.e. preached by youth coaches but not actually done by most elite swimmers)? You remind me of how much fun I have biting my tongue when my daughter's coach makes her breathe every third stroke. However, to your point. It seems that many swimmers are breathing on the last stroke into the wall but then using the lower CO2 levels as a result to take an extra stroke on their breakout. I know I do. Of course, you have to keep your head low and work that breath in as well as possible. But you kind of point to a larger issue of things that we do in masters swimming that are non-optimal in terms of maximum possible speed but on the other we do because we are dealing with a limiter. Here's an example. Swimming a 200 fly, IF you can do the whole thing taking two strokes between breaths and NOT DIE, then that is the fastest way to do it. However, some of us need to be real with ourselves and accept that given our age and the time available to train, breathing every stroke allows us to NOT DIE when we swim. Breathing into and out of walls is another one. I think it would be best if we never breathed into or out of walls. However, the reality is that at best we get to pick one, either breathe into r out of the wall so we have to figure out which one.
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