What is the average stroke count for a 25 yd free swim? Assuming no block start? I'm trying to count mine and was wondering where I should be aiming for.
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Huge variance depending on how one starts off the wall as well. Start stroking with no push off? 1 dolphin kick? 3 dolphins? I push off into a streamline with one dolphin kick and treat it like a break out with no breathing until I peel off 2 strokes.
One thing I'd suggest to just be keenly aware of with stroke counting is not getting too hung up to where that's all you focus on. I see quite a bit of this where people get dragged into the total immersion voodoo of gliding a bunch which I see a ton of with the triathlete crowd at our pools. Accelerate, decelerate, accelerate, decelerate. Huge pauses and gaps in their strokes leaning on a dropped elbow it's exhausting to watch. All the way down the pool at 2:20 100 yard pace, but they only took 10 strokes!
With that said I'm 6'1" and kind of a long torso/average wingspan build. Aerobic sets are 12-13 and 50's typically done ~ 15-16. As a point of reference I did a set of 6 x 200 last week counting my strokes and they were from 2:35 to 2:29 with an average of 14 strokes/25 yard length. The only thing I think about on 200 and above is 2:3 breathing patterns mixed in and stroke count. I know if I get enough air and keep my core speed/rotation driving the stroke count my times will be within a hand full of seconds. The stroke count can kind of be misleading too on shorter stuff b/c I use more of a shoulder driven stroke which lends itself to a higher stroke rate. 200 and up it's more hip driven which lends itself to a lower stroke rate as well.
Huge variance depending on how one starts off the wall as well. Start stroking with no push off? 1 dolphin kick? 3 dolphins? I push off into a streamline with one dolphin kick and treat it like a break out with no breathing until I peel off 2 strokes.
One thing I'd suggest to just be keenly aware of with stroke counting is not getting too hung up to where that's all you focus on. I see quite a bit of this where people get dragged into the total immersion voodoo of gliding a bunch which I see a ton of with the triathlete crowd at our pools. Accelerate, decelerate, accelerate, decelerate. Huge pauses and gaps in their strokes leaning on a dropped elbow it's exhausting to watch. All the way down the pool at 2:20 100 yard pace, but they only took 10 strokes!
With that said I'm 6'1" and kind of a long torso/average wingspan build. Aerobic sets are 12-13 and 50's typically done ~ 15-16. As a point of reference I did a set of 6 x 200 last week counting my strokes and they were from 2:35 to 2:29 with an average of 14 strokes/25 yard length. The only thing I think about on 200 and above is 2:3 breathing patterns mixed in and stroke count. I know if I get enough air and keep my core speed/rotation driving the stroke count my times will be within a hand full of seconds. The stroke count can kind of be misleading too on shorter stuff b/c I use more of a shoulder driven stroke which lends itself to a higher stroke rate. 200 and up it's more hip driven which lends itself to a lower stroke rate as well.