I watched the video on Schoeman's start swimswam.com/.../ and it raised a question I have had for a long time;why jump straight out from the start? Schoeman noted another swimmer who dove slightly up at the start and "stalled out"..In a previous thread Rich Abrahams said a coach told him the same thing about stalling out.The physics of this statement make no sense to me.Horizontal velocity is going to remain fairly constant,vertical velocity will decrease as one goes up and then increase again past the apex. I emailed Brent Rushall and he said to jump straight out or slightly down,but the article he referenced said
" Enter the water steeper rather than flatter (this should reduce the amount of splash (irrelevant water movement)).
Practice diving out as far as possible (maximal horizontal velocity produced primarily by leg drive off the block) before entering the water.
Dive deep so that resistance is reduced and more effective double-leg kicks are executed before surfacing."
To maximize distance(diving as far out as possible) one should angle up about 35-40 degrees(if the top of the block was even with surface of the water it would be 45 degrees(Rob Copeland said 32 degrees in another thread but: en.wikipedia.org/.../Ballistic_trajectory )
No one still does that,but some really good starters used to 1984 Olympic Men's 100m Breaststroke final - Steve Lundquist - YouTube .
When I ask coaches why the start should be straight out instead of angled up I never get an answer other than it has been found to be faster.In researching "found to be faster" I have found very little real confirmation.The best study I found(which I can no longer find the reference for) stated that the most important variable in speed to 15M was clean entry and that the greatest correlation with clean entry was experience.This also means that studies that just compare speed to 15M of different starts need to take experience with the start into account.
When I try the straight out start I have variable success with my entry(as would be expected with a new start.)I am willing to practice to get more consistent if I can get an explanation of why it is faster that makes "physics sense". I have seen too many trends in swimming change to think something is right just because everyone does it.(The first lesson I learned about starting was "ït is not a good start if it doesn't give you a red chest". I have been variously taught to swim freestyle without rolling and to kick out on BR kick so I know common wisdom isn't always wise.)
AHA!! A challenge yet again!! Indianapolis. You'll have to enter the 1650 with the same entry time as me so we can get seeded together (only chance of men/women together), and then we'll race it to the 15 meter mark AND compare reaction times off the blocks. I do start the 1650 the same as my 50/100, just don't normally sprint to the 15, but in this case I can make an exception.
Now, can we get you to enter the 1650? :D
What?! Waste a nationals entry on the 1650? I will stick with the much harder to place in sprint events. :D
I had one reaction time in Omaha that was 6.0.
I was speaking of my own competitors (I'm sure there are young fast big dudes who can beat me), though I am up for the 15 meter challenge! Non-free.
AHA!! A challenge yet again!! Indianapolis. You'll have to enter the 1650 with the same entry time as me so we can get seeded together (only chance of men/women together), and then we'll race it to the 15 meter mark AND compare reaction times off the blocks. I do start the 1650 the same as my 50/100, just don't normally sprint to the 15, but in this case I can make an exception.
Now, can we get you to enter the 1650? :D
What?! Waste a nationals entry on the 1650? I will stick with the much harder to place in sprint events. :D
I had one reaction time in Omaha that was 6.0.
I was speaking of my own competitors (I'm sure there are young fast big dudes who can beat me), though I am up for the 15 meter challenge! Non-free.
