How do I achieve the 1k in 15 min? How to prepare for 4k OW?

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Hey experienced swimmers, really need your help; 40 year old dude here who only recently returned to swimming. Currently swim 100m in 1minute 21, 1k in under 17 minutes and 2k in about 34 minutes in a 25m pool without pushing myself too hard... Goal is 1k in 15 min in the shortish term - and I want to do a 4k OW swim in 11 months' time. Major restrictions: No Masters, squads, coaching or even lane ropes where I live at the moment (Bavarian village), and only can train 2-3 times a week for about 1.5 hrs in a 25m pool (though there is a 50m one outdoors in summer.) Have kickboard and paddles for drills but nothing else. Thanks in advance - all and any advice on training, plans, tools, drills and even nutrition appreciated!
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    First, there was a line in medical aper about exercise progtrams taht said "SEdentary men in their earl;y forties who begin a regular exsercise program show measurable cardiac changes in as little as 6 weeks." I've mentioned this to my boss a couple of times. She's a seasoned anesthesiologist who always makes the point "They mean good changes." Keep it in mind - you can change your muscles, your nervous system, tolerance for pain, and your energetic metabolism easily in 5 weeks. You're rolling the dice if you do all-out 4 K after doing that. I can't say the best way, but a few years ago, I trained for a 3.6 k race from near-sedentary. The 100 yard training could probably use a different approach. Here's what I did. Stared with an easy 600 yard mixed stroke swim in the pool (Free, back, ***, kicking, no fly.). Worked on increasing distance 3 X per week until I was up to 4000 yards (about 6 weeks), then switched to one distance, one paced mile and an interval set -each with it's own one per week session. I spent another 6 weeks or so doing that - longer distances, faster miles, faster intervals. Last 3 weeks, I shortened and toughened the distances and upped the mile to 1.5 mile timed swims I could have done better with 1) more weeks 2) some stroke instruction. Typcially, my "distance" workout took me a bit longer than your 1.5 hours and the pacing and intervals took less time than that. I found I made faster progress when I gave up doing "days-in-a-row" workouts. YMMV. Good luck. Thanks a lot, will definitely try that training approach! Also, on your point about the good changes: Mate I have been actively back in the water for a good 8 weeks now and I can not believe how different I feel both physically and psychologically. :bliss: It is a profound change! The wife and even the kids are loving it and also keener on doing laps now. Crazy how easy it was to forget just how good swimming is - I hope I never forget it again!
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    First, there was a line in medical aper about exercise progtrams taht said "SEdentary men in their earl;y forties who begin a regular exsercise program show measurable cardiac changes in as little as 6 weeks." I've mentioned this to my boss a couple of times. She's a seasoned anesthesiologist who always makes the point "They mean good changes." Keep it in mind - you can change your muscles, your nervous system, tolerance for pain, and your energetic metabolism easily in 5 weeks. You're rolling the dice if you do all-out 4 K after doing that. I can't say the best way, but a few years ago, I trained for a 3.6 k race from near-sedentary. The 100 yard training could probably use a different approach. Here's what I did. Stared with an easy 600 yard mixed stroke swim in the pool (Free, back, ***, kicking, no fly.). Worked on increasing distance 3 X per week until I was up to 4000 yards (about 6 weeks), then switched to one distance, one paced mile and an interval set -each with it's own one per week session. I spent another 6 weeks or so doing that - longer distances, faster miles, faster intervals. Last 3 weeks, I shortened and toughened the distances and upped the mile to 1.5 mile timed swims I could have done better with 1) more weeks 2) some stroke instruction. Typcially, my "distance" workout took me a bit longer than your 1.5 hours and the pacing and intervals took less time than that. I found I made faster progress when I gave up doing "days-in-a-row" workouts. YMMV. Good luck. Thanks a lot, will definitely try that training approach! Also, on your point about the good changes: Mate I have been actively back in the water for a good 8 weeks now and I can not believe how different I feel both physically and psychologically. :bliss: It is a profound change! The wife and even the kids are loving it and also keener on doing laps now. Crazy how easy it was to forget just how good swimming is - I hope I never forget it again!
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