Seems to have held very steady through out the decades. Women seem to always be about .90 time wise of the men's performance. Some interesting science why that always may be the case.
www.theatlantic.com/.../
Seems to have held very steady through out the decades. Women seem to always be about .90 time wise of the men's performance. Some interesting science why that always may be the case.
www.theatlantic.com/.../
It's a shame that this study only goes as far as marathon distances. At ultra distances, the gender (im)balance is different. Exhibit A: en.wikipedia.org/.../Pam_Reed
If the women's record is lower than usual -- say, .85 of the men's, then there's likely room for improvement in the women's record. And likewise, if the women's record stands somewhat higher than 90 percent -- .93, .94 or .95 -- the men's record can likely improve.
Interesting... if I'm using excel right, here are the Men's records most likely to fall:
1500*m freestyle - 0.924119931
400*m freestyle - 0.920217437
200*m butterfly - 0.915442082
800*m freestyle - 0.915037442
Women's records likely to fall:
50*m freestyle - 0.881163085
50*m backstroke - 0.888396157
4×100*m freestyle relay - 0.88909881
100*m butterfly - 0.8899607
Nothing in the .93-.95 range for the men and nothing near .85 for the women.
Using the magical .9 value, Sun Yang (or some other male) could go 14:08. However, it seems fishy that all the women's records "likely to fall" are sprints (or relay sprints) and all the men's are distance. Seems that other factors may be in play.
it seems fishy that all the women's records "likely to fall" are sprints (or relay sprints) and all the men's are distance. Seems that other factors may be in play.
Without seeing any data I would think women would be comparatively closer to men in the longer events where strength isn't as much of a factor. These numbers seem to support this theory.
It would be interesting to see what the numbers are like in masters. I did a couple quick calculations in the 40-44 age group with the long course national records.
100 free 96.2%
1500 free 92.6%
200 IM 92.5%
100 fly 90.3%
The 100 free may well be an outlier considering Dara Torres has the record for women. It would be interesting to see the general trends in the data, though. For example, do women get closer to men with age, stay the same, or get comparatively slower?
It's a shame that this study only goes as far as marathon distances. At ultra distances, the gender (im)balance is different. Exhibit A: en.wikipedia.org/.../Pam_Reed
Well, she won the 2003 Badwater Ultra, but she doesn't have the overall record. The men's record is nearly 5 hours faster than hers, which comes out to a .824 ratio...not far off the widest margin from Hammerman's analysis of 82 events for 6 sports, which was .84. So it would appear that even extreme distances it holds true.
Badwater Ultra records:
20-29 M v F performance ratio: .772
30-39 M v F performance ratio: .902
40-49 M v F performance ratio: .824
She won the Badwater Ultra because she was the best person who went. It's not like the Olympics where you can expect the best in the world are going to attend every time.
The current course records for the Ironman World Championships are 8:03:56 for men and 8:54:02 for women which comes out to 90.6% so it works pretty well for Ironman distance triathlons, too!
And because I was bored, here are the ratios between boys and girls for all of the freestyle events for the USA-S National Age Group Records:
50 fr
10 96.9%
12 95.7%
14 93.1%
16 89.9%
18 89.9%
100 fr
10 100.5% (girls record faster than boys)
12 97.5%
14 95.5%
16 93.7%
18 90.4%
200 fr
10 96.9%
12 98.0%
14 95.8%
16 95.2%
18 91.4%
400 fr
10 97.8%
12 97.3%
14 96.1%
16 94.0%
18 93.3%
800 fr
10 N/A
12 98.4%
14 96.0%
16 95.0%
18 94.6%
1500 fr
10 N/A
12 98.9%
14 95.7%
16 94.9%
18 93.9%
While adults males may have that magical 10% extra hemoglobin, I wonder how that changes with age. As others have stated, muscle mass has to factor into all of this as well. (Missy Franklin broke a couple of the above records at the Games, I didn't adjust those).
haters gonna hate
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../15064423www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../9044230romuald-lepers.onlinetri.com/index.phpwww.pponline.co.uk/.../gender-performance-1094journals.lww.com/.../Differences_in_ultra_endurance_exercise_in.11.aspx
Well it would be nice if you would at least summarize your intended message with those links :agree: I read the titles but stopped short of reading them all (for the moment).
Well it would be nice if you would at least summarize your intended message with those links
I already did:
At ultra distances, the gender (im)balance is different.
:angel:
The 100 free may well be an outlier considering Dara Torres has the record for women. It would be interesting to see the general trends in the data, though. For example, do women get closer to men with age, stay the same, or get comparatively slower?
SCY Records by age:
Age____M________W________1650 Fr_M_____W_______50 Fr
18-24__15:48.7__17:31.7__0.9020__19.36__22.62__0.8558
25-29__15:44.7__16:50.2__0.9351__18.67__23.08__0.8089 's a SCY 1650 to 50 free comparison by age. Women tend to do better on distance. In both cases, there seems to be a general decline with age. The problem w/ masters is that you get outliers that can skew the data.
In both cases, there seems to be a general decline with age.
In the women's performance compared to men? This seems to be the case for the 50, but not really in the 1650.
