Amateur tips for 1,000 yard butterfly

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I have been swimming 1,000 yards non-stop of fly once a week for several months. It is my weekly high. I worked up to it gradually over about six months, after two years of core exercises and swimming at least twice a week year round. I only swim 1,000 to at most 2,000 yards a session. So I am no great swimmer. I am a 58 year-old male, only of slight build, not all that muscular amymore. But maybe a few things that I have learned can help others realize that they too can do this. The Pull. I start from my hands overlapping in the streamline position. I pull with flat hands, thumbs relaxed wherever they want to be. I end the pull quite early by sliding my hands far out to the sides after the pull. I do not pull far back towards my feet. This saves energy and greatly reduces stress on my shoulders. The hand stroke effort is more than in breaststroke, but not as much as sprinting fly. When I sprint fly, the faster water carries my hands back farher. For distance at a slower speed, I don't have that advantage. The kick. I only kick once to save leg energy. But I bring my heels up quite a bit first to get good momentum coming down. I kick hard coming down. I end the kick a little bit deep to get my hips up for the glide. My head is down as I end the kick. I can almost see my toes finish the kick as my hips rise up. Hips end up high, head and feet end up down, just a little. I don't mean to exaggerate this, but keeping it in mind helps. The glide. I glide for less than a second with my hips hopefully still high, head down and hands in the streamline position. All of the muscles in my body completely relax for less than a second to recover, except that I hold my full breath in briefly during this time to give my full lungs time to exchange oxygen/carbdon dioxide. Then I breathe out explosively as I raise my head to breathe. Oxygen/carbon dioxide management is crucial to the distance. Full lungs when possible are important for the distance. Kinesthetic awareness. I concentrate on my middle finger tips position to help me keep my hands flat with fingers (but not thumbs) together during the pull. I concentrate on my toes' position to help my kicking form. Everything in between works smoothly this way. Cautions: Work up to the desired distance gradually. Don't do too much and then have to stay out of the pool for two weeks. Quit before it hurts, especially the top of your shoulders. If you have existing shoulder injuries or back problems, this is probably not for you. Core exercises outside of the pool will help a lot. You are different than me. Give yourself time to decide what works for you. I hope you enjoy it as much as me. If I can do it, hopefully you can too!
  • Very good details .If you can see your toes, you may be looking too far back during that stage. I'm impressed with the fly yards! :applaud:
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    Sorry, I haven't counted for quite a while.
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    I can't quite see my toes. I agree with you that seeing them regularly would be a bit much.
  • Aha! Yosemite, You must be the one who sent me that e-mail about my 900 fly! I wrote back and wondered if I would see you here next... :welcome: Here is the link to the thread I had started on distance fly: 900 yard Butterfly- Really! - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums As you know from the e-mail, my 900 was followed up with a 2,000 yard fly. Your tips are excellent; especially about finishing the pull early, rather than pushing through to the thighs! I would add a couple of more tips, however. Tips 1. and 2. are from Ande, here on the forums, and the others are mine: 1. Breathe every stroke! This was the only way I was able to succeed at swimming anything more than 100 fly. 2. Keep the stroke flat. On this, do as I say, not as I do... Ande recommended this and by the looks of my video, I failed miserably at this. I am now working on trying to flatten my stroke by driving my arms forward, rather than down. 3. Keep the arms low on the recovery, just above the surface. If it weren't for this, there is no way I could have swum 2,000 yards of fly and not have pain in my shoulders. I had major shoulder surgery before I got back into swimming, but I felt NO pain after that swim. Which leads me to my next point... 4. Do dynamic (not static) stretching before and after. And, make sure you are good and warmed up before you launch into a distance fly session. Thanks to doing this before and after, I felt just fine, even the following day and next day. Yosemite, don't forget to check out the Butternuts, as I mentioned in my e-mail. That Guy told me about them and you are definitely a Butternut! It takes one to know one... :D
  • I think this is the video that Guppy was trying to show us. Fly Glidfly 2 - YouTube That is a different one, but it is very instructive.
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    Here is a video link of Ida doing a 200SCM. Watch as her stroke style changes through the middle lengths. Fjäril 200m - YouTube
  • The gliding butterfly style of Ida Marko-Varga | Swimmer's Daily www.swimmersdaily.com/.../
  • More Ida Marko-Varga ... IMV swims 200 SCM fly: 34_JRmnshC8 IMV swims semi-final in 2011 World Championships: XFBYaBXMx6w
  • The gliding butterfly style of Ida Marko-Varga | Swimmer's Daily www.swimmersdaily.com/.../ My own interpretation of distance fly is to take 3 or more kicks per stroke, but I agree 100% that the glide is key to making the whole thing work. I did 8 x 100 fly on 1:30 earlier this week. That's a modest set, hardly a cause for chest-thumping, but it's the first time I've ever done an aerobic fly set.
  • ElaineK, I agree with your additional tips. I haven't yet received your e-mail. I did receive your friendship request, which I gladly accepted. But I am new to this USMS forum, so I am floundering at times. CONGRATULATIONS on your 2,000 yard fly! That surely takes a lot of patience and determination. Awesome. Really impressive. :applaud: Thanks! I will send you a PM (private message) with the e-mail I received, as well as my reply. Hmmm, now I'm beginning to wonder if it wasn't you and it's just a coincidence! :bolt: