Does an intense weight/band workout in the morning, where I'm sore and tired throughout the day, compromise the integrity of my swim workout in the evening? I feel trashed in the water but believe in the necessity of a constructive and consistent dryland routine since I am a "pure" sprinter. I'm all about strength and power in my swims. Until I begin to taper for LCM Nationals, I intend to maintain my dryland/swim regime. Is this a good strategy or am I doing more harm than good? I lift 5 days/week alternating upper and lower body (with core every day) and swim 3-5 days/week (3,500 yds average). Thoughts?
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Does an intense weight/band workout in the morning, where I'm sore and tired throughout the day, compromise the integrity of my swim workout in the evening?
In a word, yes.
But you should not expect to swim "fast" after a heavy strength training workout. Consider using the swim session after such a workout for some drill work, aerobic conditioning, etc. Give yourself enough recovery time after a lifting workout to swim "fast".
FYI, I lift 3-4x per week, so I am always fairly "sore", and I find it next to impossible to swim "fast" after lifting, even 24 hours after. This explains why I swim much slower than my best times "in-season", but make big drops when I stop lifting and taper.
YMMV.
You need to be careful about the load you put on your muscles. Weight session (especially intense ones) tear the muscle fibres and you need to give them time to recover. If you do an intense weight session in the morning and then an intense pool session in the afternoon you need to be careful about injury. Doing this once is ok but if you then do another intense weight session the next morning you can actually do more harm than good.
Also when you do weight training it is important to do only 3-4 weeks of intense training and then 1 very easy week. If you continue to increase the weight or reps longer than this your body reacts by actually reducing strength and then stops you by injury.
It is important to work hard but you need to give your body time to adapt and rest so that you can get the full benefits of your training.
Mitchell
You are probably faster, but if I had the track record to reply I would say:
Listen to what your body is saying. Know the difference between feeling "run-down" or the feeling of beneficial recovery. I would treat the former as an opportunity to catch up in the garden. Sprinters must avoid feeling trashed like distance folks. Condense your swimming with 10 second hard efforts and super easy drilling or streamline jacuzzi floating:D.
Thanks for the input. Much needed insight to be sure. I think part of my soreness and "trashed" feeling in the water stems from the inclusion of more back/shoulder exercises. Clearly a point of weakness as my arms/legs and core are not suffering from "heaviness" and fatique like my shoulders/back. In my last swim meet, I found myself fighting that "holy crap I can't get my arms out of the water" feeling in fly. Albeit I'm no flyer but seriously, dying in a 50 yd. butterfly? Hopefully I can strike that balance between dryland and swim workouts to optimize my training.:banana:
I red some quote (I think it was on this board) that says someting like the real training is at that time when you do not put your muscles to work.
After the efforts in training your muscles are building up, preparing for a next effort. So, when you train hard in that phase, training is contra productive.
However, not knowing your strength etc. I would suggest you listen good to what your body says.
I wonder about this, too. At what point does dry land work impact the quality of your pool work.
Do you take any kind of recovery drink after your weight work out? I think at the very least that might be something to consider. I know lowfat chocolate milk is supposed to be ideal and its cheap. A quick google search will bring up quite a few studies about low fat chocolate milk. The idea is that you should feel less trashed for your second work out of the day and improve the quality of your second work out.
I also agree with what another poster said about 10 second efforts. Here is an interesting article regarding ultra short sprint training.
http://www.fcnm.org/kubrt4.pdf
I wonder about this, too. At what point does dry land work impact the quality of your pool work.
Do you take any kind of recovery drink after your weight work out? I think at the very least that might be something to consider. I know lowfat chocolate milk is supposed to be ideal and its cheap. A quick google search will bring up quite a few studies about low fat chocolate milk. The idea is that you should feel less trashed for your second work out of the day and improve the quality of your second work out.
I also agree with what another poster said about 10 second efforts. Here is an interesting article regarding ultra short sprint training.
http://www.fcnm.org/kubrt4.pdf
Thanks for sharing that link!