Preliminary Top 10 Listings Available for SCM 2011

Preliminary listings have been posted here: http://www.usms.org/comp/tt/ If you see any errors, please PM me or email Mary Beth Windrath by Feb 27.
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  • Jim swam very very well. He already said what he thought above: He wishes that R&T had voted to propose an exemption for Canadian Nationals, and believes the USMS rule is unduly demanding and persnickety. He has not had any times thrown out for failure to measure. He has lost some times when meets were de-recognized or when meets advertised to be recognized were not. And he lost times swimming in an "open" event in an Ohio meet when the referee mistakenly told him the times would count for TT. The person who was really penalized by the failure to measure was Diane Uustal who lost a slew of USMS records as a result. I believe Kelly Parker Palace in my age group also lost some AA times. The above are examples of the kind of things that changes to the regulations can limit. Many swimmers have lost TT swims, but losing a USMS record or a WR, is a big deal. A swimmer may never get a second chance for a WR and to have one thrown out would be more than merely annoying. I think that USMS should give full faith and credit to the results of major international meets swum in accordance with FINA rules and those of the jurisdiction that held the meet. As far as the rules for pool measurements, I think they should be simple and easy to understand. I believe they should mirror USAS regulations and FINA regulations whenever possible. Meet directors and facility directors will be familiar with FINA and USAS rules because far more meets are held by those organizations. I think strict pool measurement requirements should be limited to WR and USMS records. There are three Top 10s published every year and with 5 year USMS age groups there are too many swims to require strict verification. If the pool was measured w/i a reasonable time of the TT swim, either before, or after, the result should stand. If we make the regulations too complex, we will end up tripping ourselves up. BTW, Leslie I ran into Madam Marie on the boardwalk today. She looked at my palm and told me that the planets were aligned against me and my 6, Top 10 Swims in Canada would not be recognized. Madam Marie is always right, so I guess my only recourse is to give up. Do you want me to ask her how you are going to do at Worlds? :bolt:
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  • Jim swam very very well. He already said what he thought above: He wishes that R&T had voted to propose an exemption for Canadian Nationals, and believes the USMS rule is unduly demanding and persnickety. He has not had any times thrown out for failure to measure. He has lost some times when meets were de-recognized or when meets advertised to be recognized were not. And he lost times swimming in an "open" event in an Ohio meet when the referee mistakenly told him the times would count for TT. The person who was really penalized by the failure to measure was Diane Uustal who lost a slew of USMS records as a result. I believe Kelly Parker Palace in my age group also lost some AA times. The above are examples of the kind of things that changes to the regulations can limit. Many swimmers have lost TT swims, but losing a USMS record or a WR, is a big deal. A swimmer may never get a second chance for a WR and to have one thrown out would be more than merely annoying. I think that USMS should give full faith and credit to the results of major international meets swum in accordance with FINA rules and those of the jurisdiction that held the meet. As far as the rules for pool measurements, I think they should be simple and easy to understand. I believe they should mirror USAS regulations and FINA regulations whenever possible. Meet directors and facility directors will be familiar with FINA and USAS rules because far more meets are held by those organizations. I think strict pool measurement requirements should be limited to WR and USMS records. There are three Top 10s published every year and with 5 year USMS age groups there are too many swims to require strict verification. If the pool was measured w/i a reasonable time of the TT swim, either before, or after, the result should stand. If we make the regulations too complex, we will end up tripping ourselves up. BTW, Leslie I ran into Madam Marie on the boardwalk today. She looked at my palm and told me that the planets were aligned against me and my 6, Top 10 Swims in Canada would not be recognized. Madam Marie is always right, so I guess my only recourse is to give up. Do you want me to ask her how you are going to do at Worlds? :bolt:
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