It isn't the responsibility of the committee or any top ten recorder or any other USMS volunteer to contact the meet hosts of all masters meets that are not sanctioned by USMS to check on measurements just on the off chance that USMS members might be swimming there.
That is why it is the swimmer's responsibiility to get the measurements and inform their LMSC's top ten recorder about the meet and the results (preferably before the meet so the TTR can tell the swimmer what is needed).
But why do you assume that the meet directors weren't contacted?
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Walt Reid also received no measurements with the USMS/FINA record application. USMS records require them. Based on the meet hosts response and since no measurements were included in the record applications, yes we assumed no measurements were done. And again: it isn't our responsibility to get them for recognized meets. I simply don't know how to say it any plainer.
Feel free to contact the meet hosts. It doesn't matter. The deadline for submission is long past and the top ten lists are final. I don't know what you are hoping to accomplish here, but it sure is a shame that all the time and energy you have expended on this matter wasn't proactive rather than reactive. So are we done? I'm going to assume so.
Congratulations on some nice swims today!
I did not assume that you didn't contact the meet directors. It does appear that Leslie (not the committee) made an informal inquiry to them and basically was told not to worry.
I think the "new" policy is a mistake. How will you resolve inconsistent measurements by USMS swimmers? If I were to measure the pools at Worlds and my measurement indicates that they are short and Leslie also measures the pools and it believes she obtains a valid result that shows the pools are the correct length, how do you rectify the competing inconsistent measurements? Either could be right. Both could be wrong. We will never know. What laser and measuring devices are approved by USMS? How often do the devices have to be independently checked for accuracy? Do you have to be trained to use them? I don't see the new USMS policy as being practical, cost effective and reasonable. I don't think we should be reinventing the wheel.
I like the Canadians procedure, have a professional do it and monitor the situation.
Have a good meet tomorrow, I will let you know what I find out. Also, think about this. I believe that there is a better solution, you might be able to come up with something.
It isn't the responsibility of the committee or any top ten recorder or any other USMS volunteer to contact the meet hosts of all masters meets that are not sanctioned by USMS to check on measurements just on the off chance that USMS members might be swimming there.
That is why it is the swimmer's responsibiility to get the measurements and inform their LMSC's top ten recorder about the meet and the results (preferably before the meet so the TTR can tell the swimmer what is needed).
But why do you assume that the meet directors weren't contacted?
U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums - View Single Post - Canadian Masters Swimming Championships 2011
Walt Reid also received no measurements with the USMS/FINA record application. USMS records require them. Based on the meet hosts response and since no measurements were included in the record applications, yes we assumed no measurements were done. And again: it isn't our responsibility to get them for recognized meets. I simply don't know how to say it any plainer.
Feel free to contact the meet hosts. It doesn't matter. The deadline for submission is long past and the top ten lists are final. I don't know what you are hoping to accomplish here, but it sure is a shame that all the time and energy you have expended on this matter wasn't proactive rather than reactive. So are we done? I'm going to assume so.
Congratulations on some nice swims today!
I did not assume that you didn't contact the meet directors. It does appear that Leslie (not the committee) made an informal inquiry to them and basically was told not to worry.
I think the "new" policy is a mistake. How will you resolve inconsistent measurements by USMS swimmers? If I were to measure the pools at Worlds and my measurement indicates that they are short and Leslie also measures the pools and it believes she obtains a valid result that shows the pools are the correct length, how do you rectify the competing inconsistent measurements? Either could be right. Both could be wrong. We will never know. What laser and measuring devices are approved by USMS? How often do the devices have to be independently checked for accuracy? Do you have to be trained to use them? I don't see the new USMS policy as being practical, cost effective and reasonable. I don't think we should be reinventing the wheel.
I like the Canadians procedure, have a professional do it and monitor the situation.
Have a good meet tomorrow, I will let you know what I find out. Also, think about this. I believe that there is a better solution, you might be able to come up with something.
