Canadian Nationals were also exempted in the past and the minutes do compare the Montreal situation to the Worlds and previous Canadian meets. I think if the bulkhead pools are measured periodically and in conformance w/ the jurisdictions sanctioning regulations that should be enough. I believe you when you say that tightening a lane line can make a bulkhead short but for many reasons that should be an extremely rare occurrence. It is possible that the measurement procedure was flawed in those cases or the bulkhead was defective. This is the first time I have heard that the pool was not measured at all either before or after the meet. I believe you when you say that, but I never heard anyone from the meet admit to that.
I thought it was measured before competition as Canada requires.
Worlds will be there in 2014. So FINA thinks they run a good meet.
Actually, you'd be surprised how often that happens. That's why you're not supposed to measure a course until it is completely set up, because it can move slightly when the lane ropes are put in.
Canada requires measurements once a year, by a qualified surveyor, correct? Without documentation, how do you know that it was measured after the competition course was set up for nationals? That's the crux of the issue- no one knows for sure if the course was the right length. We can all assume it was, till we're blue in the face, but until there's documented proof, we're just assuming.
No one is saying that they don't run a good meet. All we're saying is that the meet was not run according to USMS rules, so it can't be accepted for top tens and national records. It's irrelevant that FINA is accepting the times, and that they gave Montreal the 2014 bid. Our rules weren't followed, therefore our NGB isn't accepting the times. It's as simple as that, however unfortunate the situation is.
Canadian Nationals were also exempted in the past and the minutes do compare the Montreal situation to the Worlds and previous Canadian meets. I think if the bulkhead pools are measured periodically and in conformance w/ the jurisdictions sanctioning regulations that should be enough. I believe you when you say that tightening a lane line can make a bulkhead short but for many reasons that should be an extremely rare occurrence. It is possible that the measurement procedure was flawed in those cases or the bulkhead was defective. This is the first time I have heard that the pool was not measured at all either before or after the meet. I believe you when you say that, but I never heard anyone from the meet admit to that.
I thought it was measured before competition as Canada requires.
Worlds will be there in 2014. So FINA thinks they run a good meet.
Actually, you'd be surprised how often that happens. That's why you're not supposed to measure a course until it is completely set up, because it can move slightly when the lane ropes are put in.
Canada requires measurements once a year, by a qualified surveyor, correct? Without documentation, how do you know that it was measured after the competition course was set up for nationals? That's the crux of the issue- no one knows for sure if the course was the right length. We can all assume it was, till we're blue in the face, but until there's documented proof, we're just assuming.
No one is saying that they don't run a good meet. All we're saying is that the meet was not run according to USMS rules, so it can't be accepted for top tens and national records. It's irrelevant that FINA is accepting the times, and that they gave Montreal the 2014 bid. Our rules weren't followed, therefore our NGB isn't accepting the times. It's as simple as that, however unfortunate the situation is.
