Preliminary Top 10 Listings Available for SCM 2011

Preliminary listings have been posted here: http://www.usms.org/comp/tt/ If you see any errors, please PM me or email Mary Beth Windrath by Feb 27.
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  • Let me see if I am following the logic here. 1.We think that the Canadian pool was properly measured and the right length. So the times are valid. 2. We agree that FINA rules were complied with as required by Canada. Therefore, the results are valid times everywhere else in the world. 3. We agree that the previous policy would have allowed those results. 4. We agree that the USMS in the future (hopefully before Worlds) will again accept times from (major) international meets that comply with the standards of that federation. 5. The results from Stanford Worlds and previous Canadian National Meets were granted exemptions from USMS standards. 6. A motion to grant the same exemption was not granted for the 2011 canadian Nationals. 1. Incorrect. We do not know if it was the correct length because they refused to measure it at the meet. (Honestly, I'm not sure why this point continues to fail to register with you.) 2. True. 3. Prior to the current rules, yes. 4. Only if the proposed rule passes. It might not. And even if it does, it might not affect Worlds. Of course, people who attend Worlds might do their homework and measure the pool, as you could have done yourself. 5. No they weren't granted exemptions. Any previous international meet that occurred after our current rules were in place and that was accepted without the proper measurements was done in violation of the rules. (And two wrongs don't make a right.) 6. The motion was to apply for a rules exception; the R&T Committee does not have the authority to ignore the rules. But yes, it failed. Jack, it's done. Finished, no matter how many times you plant the flag :canada:. For someone who professes to have no time to keep up with rule changes or read the rule book, you sure spend a lot of time beating a dead horse. It takes all of 5-10 minutes to find and read the relevant sections in the rule book. You said that you would have gone to the meet even if you knew it wasn't going to be accepted. That's excellent: enjoy the meet for what it was and move on. If top ten is so vitally important to you then in the future I suggest either attending only sanctioned meets or doing due diligence before attending recognized meets such as this one.
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  • Let me see if I am following the logic here. 1.We think that the Canadian pool was properly measured and the right length. So the times are valid. 2. We agree that FINA rules were complied with as required by Canada. Therefore, the results are valid times everywhere else in the world. 3. We agree that the previous policy would have allowed those results. 4. We agree that the USMS in the future (hopefully before Worlds) will again accept times from (major) international meets that comply with the standards of that federation. 5. The results from Stanford Worlds and previous Canadian National Meets were granted exemptions from USMS standards. 6. A motion to grant the same exemption was not granted for the 2011 canadian Nationals. 1. Incorrect. We do not know if it was the correct length because they refused to measure it at the meet. (Honestly, I'm not sure why this point continues to fail to register with you.) 2. True. 3. Prior to the current rules, yes. 4. Only if the proposed rule passes. It might not. And even if it does, it might not affect Worlds. Of course, people who attend Worlds might do their homework and measure the pool, as you could have done yourself. 5. No they weren't granted exemptions. Any previous international meet that occurred after our current rules were in place and that was accepted without the proper measurements was done in violation of the rules. (And two wrongs don't make a right.) 6. The motion was to apply for a rules exception; the R&T Committee does not have the authority to ignore the rules. But yes, it failed. Jack, it's done. Finished, no matter how many times you plant the flag :canada:. For someone who professes to have no time to keep up with rule changes or read the rule book, you sure spend a lot of time beating a dead horse. It takes all of 5-10 minutes to find and read the relevant sections in the rule book. You said that you would have gone to the meet even if you knew it wasn't going to be accepted. That's excellent: enjoy the meet for what it was and move on. If top ten is so vitally important to you then in the future I suggest either attending only sanctioned meets or doing due diligence before attending recognized meets such as this one.
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