In my most recent blog entry, "One Man's Garbage..." forums.usms.org/blog.php , I asked my fellow swimmers their respective opinions on the impact long, slow, continuous swimming has on meet performance.
The expression "garbage yards" (and the pejorative overtones such a phrase conjurs) has become so embedded in the forum lexicon that many, I suspect, now consider as indisputable truth swimming this way is a waste of time for anyone with competitive ambitions.
Such a view appears particularly well-entrenched among the many non-credentialed exercise physiology pontificators here on the forums who also have a fondness for sprinting and dry land exercise.
But is the concept of garbage yards truly valid--or a kind of urban legend made up largely by sprinters who would rather be doing something other than spending 90 minutes without stopping in the pool?
I don't mean only practicing this way. But if you are, like me, inclined to enjoy swimming, once or twice a week, long, slow, relatively relaxing, continuous yards, do you believe (and more importantly, perhaps, have any evidence to bolster said belief) that so-called "garbage yards" can have some value for actual racing?
Or do these only teach your body to swim slow?
I invite you to read my recent blog forums.usms.org/blog.php and post your thoughts advice there or here.
At the risk of provoking censure by the forum authorities, I furthermore ask you to leave all civility by the wayside.
Feel free to trash talk and smack upside the head of any and every one who disagrees with your personal bias here!
It's been way too long since these forums have had a good, old-fashioned range war of opinions run amuk and ad hominem attacks!
Go at each other tooth and claw. It will only stir the blood of us all, I say--something we garbage yard enthusiasts probably need a bit more of, I will admit.
Jim does math, intriguing.
While true the exertion lasts about 25% less time, the amount of exertion is substantially greater than doing it at 2:00. There is probably some mathematical formula at play here, chime in at any time knelson.
I am not sure this is actually true. I will agree that effort/hydrodynamic resistance increases greatly (exponentially?) with increasing speed, but that is so within a given swimmer.
Some of these 6' 5" sleek behemoths with their gigantic flipper feet and hands the size of paddles and ripped abdomens devoid of flapping fat are like America's Cup yachts compared to New York Harbor tugboats of your typical Thornton-style geriatric competitor.
I would venture to bet that were we to rig up both the NCAA champion and me at the end of our respective best 200s of any given year, the testing apparatus would suggest without doubt that one of us had been moved, by his efforts, considerably closer to the boneyard than the other.
You can tell which one of this is by the fact that the one who has exerted himself more continues to lie down on the pool deck where the handicapped hoist has plopped him for a good half hour, while the other one has merrily jogged off to show the women's team his abdomen, giant feet, giant hands, and the rest of the championship package.
Jim does math, intriguing.
While true the exertion lasts about 25% less time, the amount of exertion is substantially greater than doing it at 2:00. There is probably some mathematical formula at play here, chime in at any time knelson.
I am not sure this is actually true. I will agree that effort/hydrodynamic resistance increases greatly (exponentially?) with increasing speed, but that is so within a given swimmer.
Some of these 6' 5" sleek behemoths with their gigantic flipper feet and hands the size of paddles and ripped abdomens devoid of flapping fat are like America's Cup yachts compared to New York Harbor tugboats of your typical Thornton-style geriatric competitor.
I would venture to bet that were we to rig up both the NCAA champion and me at the end of our respective best 200s of any given year, the testing apparatus would suggest without doubt that one of us had been moved, by his efforts, considerably closer to the boneyard than the other.
You can tell which one of this is by the fact that the one who has exerted himself more continues to lie down on the pool deck where the handicapped hoist has plopped him for a good half hour, while the other one has merrily jogged off to show the women's team his abdomen, giant feet, giant hands, and the rest of the championship package.