help wanted to shorten stroke rate

Hi everyone I'm trying to reduce my front crawl armstroke rate. Currently I can get through 25M in 25 strokes (at best), my technique feels ok (high elbow recovery and a decent push phase), yet I notice other folks in the pool travelling the same distance in 15-20 strokes looking really relaxed. I'm working on improving my body roll, which I guess is the key, but any help or tips (maybe from someone who's had the same problem and has made a significant improvement) would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Andy make a video of you swimming freestyle (preferably side angle or underwater) put it on youtube then provide the link in this thread. swimmers with high stroke counts / low DPS can improve by doing drills where they concentrate on taking as few strokes as possible while only doing a 2 beat kick. begin by: 1) pushing off HARDER 2) streamlining SKINNIER & 3) GLIDING further Swimmers lower their DPS by improving their: 1) CATCH / feel for the water / EVF swimmers with low DPS are usually slipping water they could & should be catching you want to feel more resistance on your hands and arm when you pull 2) BODY POSITION neutral head position streamlined body accelerate your hands toward the finish of each stroke and concentrate on gliding more after each arm stroke with your non pulling arm out front, kind of like catch up stroke but you don't have to actually touch your hands before starting your next pull Watch great efficient swimmers and copy them TI

Hi everyone I'm trying to reduce my front crawl armstroke rate. Currently I can get through 25M in 25 strokes (at best), my technique feels ok (high elbow recovery and a decent push phase), yet I notice other folks in the pool travelling the same distance in 15-20 strokes looking really relaxed. I'm working on improving my body roll, which I guess is the key, but any help or tips (maybe from someone who's had the same problem and has made a significant improvement) would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Andy make a video of you swimming freestyle (preferably side angle or underwater) put it on youtube then provide the link in this thread. swimmers with high stroke counts / low DPS can improve by doing drills where they concentrate on taking as few strokes as possible while only doing a 2 beat kick. begin by: 1) pushing off HARDER 2) streamlining SKINNIER & 3) GLIDING further Swimmers lower their DPS by improving their: 1) CATCH / feel for the water / EVF swimmers with low DPS are usually slipping water they could & should be catching you want to feel more resistance on your hands and arm when you pull 2) BODY POSITION neutral head position streamlined body accelerate your hands toward the finish of each stroke and concentrate on gliding more after each arm stroke with your non pulling arm out front, kind of like catch up stroke but you don't have to actually touch your hands before starting your next pull Watch great efficient swimmers and copy them TI