Possible to improve 30min distance w/only 30min sessions?
Former Member
Hi,
This is my 1st post.
I have been a fitness swimmer (off & on depending if I lived near a pool) for nearly 30 years, since my mid-20s when I taught myself to swim a mile freestyle non-stop. (I had a few pointers from a local swim coach back then)
My times have always been around 30 minutes, give or take.
I am now retired and have a year round indoor pool. It's short... 56 feet I think. 48 laps= 1 mile. Yes, it's a lot of flip turns.
I still do dry land, weights, pushups & chin ups etc.
But I don't like spending more than 30 min in the pool. Typically, it's mostly freestyle, with a few backstroke & kickboard thrown in...all nonstop & flip turns.
I went all out on Friday, and still fell just short of a mile :-(
My question: Is it unrealistic to expect to improve my time without spending more time in the water?
No Masters around here (Camano Island Wa), but I did hear a local pastor used to coach a Brazilian Olympic team...
ps I was just reading some threads here and found out the S curve stroke is no longer advised. Ha! News to me. Maybe that's my problem.
Hi,
I went all out on Friday, and still fell just short of a mile :-(
My question: Is it unrealistic to expect to improve my time without spending more time in the water?
NO
it IS possible, you can improve your mile time by just training 30 minutes a day, but it is more probable and possible when you train further, faster, better, and more often.
Training 5 or 6 times a week is better than 3 or 4
Training 45 - 60 minutes per practice is better than 30.
The quickest way for you to get faster is to improve your technique. If you are making any technique errors and if you improve them, your improvement will be proportional to the corrections you made.
Because your mile takes you around 30 minutes, there has to be some low hanging technique improvement fruit for you to pick.
Also since your pool is short (56 ft)
I believe you can make your biggest fastest improvements by
improving your turns, push offs, and streamlines.
Concentrate on turning faster, pushing off harder, streamlining skinnier and gliding further and faster than you ever have before.
Technique: Swim long and smooth, do a 2 beat kick, breathe every 2 or 3,
Pacing: A mile is pretty long and it's wise to swim at a steady pace that you can sustain the whole way, this means you should go much easier at the beginning, work on even splitting and negative splitting
What kind of suit are you wearing?
There are many ways to improve. I wrote about them in SWIM FASTER FASTER
Also consider the edvice I gave in
Last 150 of my 500 falls off
Scott put my advice into action and made dramatic improvements in his 500, the same concepts apply to the mile it's just a bit over 3 times further than a 500.
What's your height and weight?
If you're too heavy, become a slimmer swimmer.
don't do the same work out each day
hit different systems different days of the week
Here's a sample week of practices:
Mon
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest (do awesome push offs)
main set
4 x (swim strong and steady for 4:30, rest 30)
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Tue
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest, awesome push offs
main set
20 x 50 on 1:00 all fast best average
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Wed
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest, awesome push offs
main set
8 x (swim hard and steady for 2:00, rest 30 sec)
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Wed
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest, awesome push offs
main set
8 x (swim hard and steady for 2:00, rest 30 sec)
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Thu
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest, awesome push offs
main set
4 x (swim 75% for 2:00, swim 80% for 2:00 rest 60 sec)
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Fri
warm up 5:00 like 5 easy 50's on 1:00
main set
MILE FAST for time (awesome turns, push offs & streamlines)
100 easy 2:00
Sat
warm up 8:00 easy 50's with 10 sec rest after each
main set
20 x 25 FAST on 1:00
100 easy on 2:00
Sun off
Lastly if you consistently act like you're a man on a mission to dramatically improve his mile
You will, with out a doubt, but it takes what it takes.
Is training
harder, smarter, further, faster, & more often, with more desire, focus and intensity
a price you're willing to pay?
Hope this helps
let us know what you do and how you do.
Good luck,
ande
Hi,
I went all out on Friday, and still fell just short of a mile :-(
My question: Is it unrealistic to expect to improve my time without spending more time in the water?
NO
it IS possible, you can improve your mile time by just training 30 minutes a day, but it is more probable and possible when you train further, faster, better, and more often.
Training 5 or 6 times a week is better than 3 or 4
Training 45 - 60 minutes per practice is better than 30.
The quickest way for you to get faster is to improve your technique. If you are making any technique errors and if you improve them, your improvement will be proportional to the corrections you made.
Because your mile takes you around 30 minutes, there has to be some low hanging technique improvement fruit for you to pick.
Also since your pool is short (56 ft)
I believe you can make your biggest fastest improvements by
improving your turns, push offs, and streamlines.
Concentrate on turning faster, pushing off harder, streamlining skinnier and gliding further and faster than you ever have before.
Technique: Swim long and smooth, do a 2 beat kick, breathe every 2 or 3,
Pacing: A mile is pretty long and it's wise to swim at a steady pace that you can sustain the whole way, this means you should go much easier at the beginning, work on even splitting and negative splitting
What kind of suit are you wearing?
There are many ways to improve. I wrote about them in SWIM FASTER FASTER
Also consider the edvice I gave in
Last 150 of my 500 falls off
Scott put my advice into action and made dramatic improvements in his 500, the same concepts apply to the mile it's just a bit over 3 times further than a 500.
What's your height and weight?
If you're too heavy, become a slimmer swimmer.
don't do the same work out each day
hit different systems different days of the week
Here's a sample week of practices:
Mon
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest (do awesome push offs)
main set
4 x (swim strong and steady for 4:30, rest 30)
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Tue
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest, awesome push offs
main set
20 x 50 on 1:00 all fast best average
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Wed
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest, awesome push offs
main set
8 x (swim hard and steady for 2:00, rest 30 sec)
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Wed
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest, awesome push offs
main set
8 x (swim hard and steady for 2:00, rest 30 sec)
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Thu
warm up
8 minutes of easy 50's with 5 seconds rest, awesome push offs
main set
4 x (swim 75% for 2:00, swim 80% for 2:00 rest 60 sec)
cool down
100 easy on 2:00
Fri
warm up 5:00 like 5 easy 50's on 1:00
main set
MILE FAST for time (awesome turns, push offs & streamlines)
100 easy 2:00
Sat
warm up 8:00 easy 50's with 10 sec rest after each
main set
20 x 25 FAST on 1:00
100 easy on 2:00
Sun off
Lastly if you consistently act like you're a man on a mission to dramatically improve his mile
You will, with out a doubt, but it takes what it takes.
Is training
harder, smarter, further, faster, & more often, with more desire, focus and intensity
a price you're willing to pay?
Hope this helps
let us know what you do and how you do.
Good luck,
ande