Total Immersion origins/theory

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I heard that TI is based on the research of a Russian scientist. Is this true? Who was it? Any published papers or data? Thanks.
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  • I remember the TI book was my very first resource when I decided "gosh darnit, I'm going to learn to swim well." I looked at it as my bible and was completely convinced by everything I read, to the point I defended it here in this forum (with a lot of grief from George:)). I am a case study in the evolution of a swimming style, especially since I started on a masters team. When I looked at the TI book a little more carefully and compared it with the swimmer it often cited (Popov), I found some similarities but also some glaring differences. While Popov had good balance and looked down, he did NOT have a front quadrant stroke as espoused by the TI book. Nor was his catch like that described in TI. Popov had a definite shoulder rotating high elbow catch. How much of his famed lower power output was due to better balance and streamlining versus a better feel for the water and better catch we will never know. The front quadrant concept, now apparently dropped by TI, set me back about 2 years I must say. If it was dropped so long ago, why on earth was that book still in publication 3-4 years ago? I had a catch up stroke until about 1 year ago that I had the darnest time overcoming. Not until I finally shook it have I taken my swimming to the next level. The catch does not get a lot of attention in the TI world. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know. It's kind of like "spear down and pull down the middle". More emphasis is on the body rotation aiding the pull. One of the concepts I struggled with for a long time was forcibly trying to rotate rather than letting it naturally occur as my recovery shoulder moved forward. I have improved my efficiency and speed by letting it occur naturally rather than thinking about using my kick to initiate the rotation. I've really abandoned the whole core emphasis outside of keeping my core stretched and tight.
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  • I remember the TI book was my very first resource when I decided "gosh darnit, I'm going to learn to swim well." I looked at it as my bible and was completely convinced by everything I read, to the point I defended it here in this forum (with a lot of grief from George:)). I am a case study in the evolution of a swimming style, especially since I started on a masters team. When I looked at the TI book a little more carefully and compared it with the swimmer it often cited (Popov), I found some similarities but also some glaring differences. While Popov had good balance and looked down, he did NOT have a front quadrant stroke as espoused by the TI book. Nor was his catch like that described in TI. Popov had a definite shoulder rotating high elbow catch. How much of his famed lower power output was due to better balance and streamlining versus a better feel for the water and better catch we will never know. The front quadrant concept, now apparently dropped by TI, set me back about 2 years I must say. If it was dropped so long ago, why on earth was that book still in publication 3-4 years ago? I had a catch up stroke until about 1 year ago that I had the darnest time overcoming. Not until I finally shook it have I taken my swimming to the next level. The catch does not get a lot of attention in the TI world. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know. It's kind of like "spear down and pull down the middle". More emphasis is on the body rotation aiding the pull. One of the concepts I struggled with for a long time was forcibly trying to rotate rather than letting it naturally occur as my recovery shoulder moved forward. I have improved my efficiency and speed by letting it occur naturally rather than thinking about using my kick to initiate the rotation. I've really abandoned the whole core emphasis outside of keeping my core stretched and tight.
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