Total Immersion origins/theory

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I heard that TI is based on the research of a Russian scientist. Is this true? Who was it? Any published papers or data? Thanks.
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  • I like that. For example, I find myself questioning the very first instants of a "traditional" catch. Be careful in what you are calling traditional. Many salesmen will try to set themselves apart by saying that they are doing something totally different than anyone else. when in actuality some o the things they are speaking of is well accepted. The idea that you are talking about, getting your forearm orthogonal to the direction of flow early and then really putting on the gas is promulgated in many places. The concept is often called early vertical forearm. It's a good idea, one which adult swimmers can get injured with or give up on due tot pain because they don't have the internal rotation at the shoulder to pull it off and make substitution motions instead and can end up hurt. You'll also see it talked about as a significant elbow bend. This kind of accomplishes the same thing. Gets your forearm orthogonal to whee you want to go. Since there is not much internal rotation, the forearm isn't vertical. Look around and you'll see that what you are calling a traditional catch is practiced in extremely fast swimming with some sprinters who like that style. Even so, they are pushing down and back from the get go, getting their hands into the orthogonal position as quickly as possible, understanding that their turnover is so fast, you won't see the big break at the elbow that you might see in middle distance or distance swimmers.
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  • I like that. For example, I find myself questioning the very first instants of a "traditional" catch. Be careful in what you are calling traditional. Many salesmen will try to set themselves apart by saying that they are doing something totally different than anyone else. when in actuality some o the things they are speaking of is well accepted. The idea that you are talking about, getting your forearm orthogonal to the direction of flow early and then really putting on the gas is promulgated in many places. The concept is often called early vertical forearm. It's a good idea, one which adult swimmers can get injured with or give up on due tot pain because they don't have the internal rotation at the shoulder to pull it off and make substitution motions instead and can end up hurt. You'll also see it talked about as a significant elbow bend. This kind of accomplishes the same thing. Gets your forearm orthogonal to whee you want to go. Since there is not much internal rotation, the forearm isn't vertical. Look around and you'll see that what you are calling a traditional catch is practiced in extremely fast swimming with some sprinters who like that style. Even so, they are pushing down and back from the get go, getting their hands into the orthogonal position as quickly as possible, understanding that their turnover is so fast, you won't see the big break at the elbow that you might see in middle distance or distance swimmers.
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