butterfly kick

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hello I have been swimming fly for 5 years, but just a week ago somebody told that my stroke is wrong. When I first learned butterfly I used to focus a lot on my kick, so my stroke was very slow. Then my coach told me to focus on my arms, get them fast and my kick would eventually catch up with the speed. Then I kept on doing fly but wihout a coach, I eventually got faster, but here is why my stroke is wrong: I don't kick two times every stroke, I only do it once, and anybody ever told me! So, my time for a 50 fly SCM is 32" high, and for 100 SCM is 1' 13" I started to do 2 kicks every stroke, but my times are x10 slower, like 40" for a 50 SCM fly :cane:(the only positive thing is that I get a lot less tired than with the other stroke) Here is a video of me from 6 months ago: ‪50 fly SCM‬‏ - YouTube There you can clearly see that I only kick once every stroke. So, my question is, how do I correct my stroke without losing too much speed in the process? Because with the current speed of my arms, there is no way to kick two times, so I have to slow down and let them still infront of me for a moment so I kick a second time. Thanks
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  • From what I can see, the timing of the kick and stroke look off. By this I mean you're "stroking and kicking at the same time," it's kinda hard to explain but what happens is that the "ideal" rhythm is broken by this type of fly. You might try some one-arm fly with the non-stroking arm either at your side or in front. Also think of bringing your arms, head and torso up and over, diving down into the water. Then when your arms are close to finishing the propulsive part of the stroke (close to your stomach or hips), bring your kick down. This can help rework the rhythm to what you'd see with stronger butterfliers. Also, even though there are two kicks, you might think of it as having a big kick and a smaller kick. In your video you're emphasizing the small kick. I think the big kick should occur when your at or near the end of the propulsive phase of the arm stroke (again, when your hands are about to leave the water for the recovery phase. It's pretty hard to explain via posting, at least for me, but I gave it a shot. The times you posted are pretty good for "doing it wrong," and I think once your rhythm is adjusted you'll see a fairly dramatic time drop with minimal amount of effort. :D
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  • From what I can see, the timing of the kick and stroke look off. By this I mean you're "stroking and kicking at the same time," it's kinda hard to explain but what happens is that the "ideal" rhythm is broken by this type of fly. You might try some one-arm fly with the non-stroking arm either at your side or in front. Also think of bringing your arms, head and torso up and over, diving down into the water. Then when your arms are close to finishing the propulsive part of the stroke (close to your stomach or hips), bring your kick down. This can help rework the rhythm to what you'd see with stronger butterfliers. Also, even though there are two kicks, you might think of it as having a big kick and a smaller kick. In your video you're emphasizing the small kick. I think the big kick should occur when your at or near the end of the propulsive phase of the arm stroke (again, when your hands are about to leave the water for the recovery phase. It's pretty hard to explain via posting, at least for me, but I gave it a shot. The times you posted are pretty good for "doing it wrong," and I think once your rhythm is adjusted you'll see a fairly dramatic time drop with minimal amount of effort. :D
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