Low-carb (ketogenic) eating and swimming

Good to believe in something - but I think you are totally wrong and the data I know does too -- our body is incredibly adoptable so that is no proof at all - I am one of the fastest 50 and 100F swimmer 50+ in the country - so does that mean my diet is best ??? There are centenarian smokers out there - does that mean I should smoke ?? 

1) I can not base research on one item - the entire diet and what I "substitute" for what is most important - the body will adopt to sooo many things but cancer and many things that will "get us" towards the end of our lives develop your entire life.

2) who lives the longest healthiest life in the world - the opposite of ketogenic diets. Blue Zones / China study ...  I looked at Seventh Day adventist - the more meat and animal protein the shorter their lives -- healthiest longest lives - vegan whole food plant based,,, the clock and the numbers do not lie 

3) Quality protein and protein obsession - this is complete industry manipulation - its simple to get enough protein with a WFPB diet - whole food plant based ... so because the protein in meat is higher "quality" I should be ok with all the side effects ... diabetes, heart disease, cancer -- shorter life 

You ask for a 90 day test - ok - take your blood markers now - like LDL ... how high is it now ??? -  and show them to 3 neutral docs - then do a true 90 days WFPB diet - take blood markers and health check then .... my results were soooooooo much better - LDL at 65 ... we all have our own body but the numbers just do not lie 

Good to believe in something - but I think you are totally wrong and the data I know does too -- our body is incredibly adoptable so that is no proof at all - I am one of the fastest 50 and 100F swimmer 50+ in the country - so does that mean my diet is best ??? There are centenarian smokers out there - does that mean I should smoke ?? 

1) I can not base research on one item - the entire diet and what I "substitute" for what is most important - the body will adopt to sooo many things but cancer and many things that will "get us" towards the end of our lives develop your entire life.

2) who lives the longest healthiest life in the world - the opposite of ketogenic diets. Blue Zones / China study ...  I looked at Seventh Day adventist - the more meat and animal protein the shorter their lives -- healthiest longest lives - vegan whole food plant based,,, the clock and the numbers do not lie 

3) Quality protein and protein obsession - this is complete industry manipulation - its simple to get enough protein with a WFPB diet - whole food plant based ... so because the protein in meat is higher "quality" I should be ok with all the side effects ... diabetes, heart disease, cancer -- shorter life 

You ask for a 90 day test - ok - take your blood markers now - like LDL ... how high is it now ??? -  and show them to 3 neutral docs - then do a true 90 days WFPB diet - take blood markers and health check then .... my results were soooooooo much better - LDL at 65 ... we all have our own body but the numbers just do not lie 

I find your reply fascinating. 

Over the past 100+ years, the consumption of meat has decreased, seed oil consumption was introduced, and plant-based (vegan/vegetarian) was shoved down our throats as the healthier option, while EVERY disease has increased exponentially. We are animals, and every group of animals has an optimum way of eating. For us and our intestinal system, that is animal products. Yes, God made our bodies a miracle and able to withstand products we shouldn't consume on a regular basis. 

In 1942, researchers proved that cancer feeds on sugar. So, it makes sense to reduce your sugar intake and avoid cancer.  ALL carbohydrates turn to sugar in the body. It is estimated that 85% of vegans must reintroduce animal products back into their diet because of health issues. In 1958, the Framingham study showed that cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease and postulated that the culprit was sugar. The sugar industry paid 3 Harvard Researchers to say fat was the issue. Sugar consumption doesn't rear its ugly head after a short time, it takes decades for the damage to show. This is why the sugar industry can get away with the amount of sugar they put in food and drinks, it won't kill you right off. 

The Blue Zone documentary is a load of crap. They don't mention that those countries eat fish, pig, and chicken as well as lamb. One village that was visited in Italy cooks up a lamb feast every day, but somehow, they don't consume meat. Maybe the term meat needs to be clearly defined - animal muscle. Another study showed that the people becoming Centenarians had low blood sugar and high cholesterol, meaning meat eaters.  

Whole food plant-based is one of the great lies of our times. I do believe it started with Ellen G White from the Seventh-Day Adventist church. She believed God won't return until we are vegan/vegetarian. Her scribe was Kellogg, between him and Post, they started us down this road of ill health. To get the nutrition in a 4oz steak, you would need to consume 3 cups of beans and rice. Kale is promoted as a super-food, yet the K1 is not what we need, we need K2 and our bodies are awful at converting it. The iron in spinach is only 10-12% absorbable, so most goes out as waste. Vegetables are digested in the large intestines, that bloating and gas people experience is from the vegetables rooting in the colon. Meat is digested in the small intestines.

The LDL Cholesterol myth was debunked 50+ years ago. A UCLA Health study looked at hospital admissions for heart issues from 2000 - 2006. 72% of those admitted had a cholesterol less than 130. The greater issue is your Triglyceride to HDL ratio. That should be below 2. The leading causes of heart disease by hazard ratio are Type 2 diabetes (10.71), metabolic syndrome (6.09), hypertension (4.58), and Lipoprotein insulin resistance (6.4). LDL cholesterol hazard ratio is 1.38. (According to Open Heart 2021). Another good measure is a CAC (Coronary Artery Calcium) score and/or a Carotid Intima-Meida Thickness (CIMT) Test. I would recommend both to anyone over 40. 

I take lab results with a grain of salt because each lab can determine their own range. It is based off the population in the area of the lab. 

So, with that being said ... you do you boo! I have seen what WFPB does to people's health, no way I would recommend that as nutrition coach. 

Yes fascinating - but what diet shows the longest healthiest life ? The more meat and dairy the shorter the life and lower the healthy life span - thats a fact - can't dispute that ....

It's not a fact and can be disputed. The studies that have been completed were skewed.

For example:

In 1920's - Vilhjalmur Stefansson, a vegetarian explorer, became stranded when his ship wrecked. Living among the Inuit Tribe of Canada. He had to eat a carnivore diet. When he got back, he allowed scientists to monitor him for a year. Not only did his gingivitis go away but he said he'd never felt better in his life. 

In 1958, the Ancel Keyes 7 country study was actually 22 countries. He cherry picked the countries that went with his narrative. 

In 1958, the Framingham studied showed that dietary cholesterol didn't cause heart disease. The results were suppressed. The sugar industry paid 3 Harvard researchers to lie and say fat was the problem.

The studies that show potential correlation but not causation are observational studies where participants are given a questionnaire to show what they have eaten in a time frame, anywhere from 3-months to a year. The questionnaire considers a "hamburger" bun and all as "meat". They count lasagna as "meat". While they both contain "meat" the real issue is the other ingredients. 

 As for longevity, that's quite a leap to say that more meat and dairy the shorter the life. Observational studies cannot account for confounders. For example, people that consume meat also consume alcohol, smoke, and exercise less than their plant eating counterparts (or so the studies suggest). 

Boston University Chobanian & Avedisian School of Medicine and Tufts Medical Center - According to the researchers, when people are exposed to infections and recover from them, their immune system learns to adapt, but this ability to respond declines as we age. “The immune profiles that we observed in the centenarians confirms a long history of exposure to infections and capacity to recover from them and provide support to the hypothesis that centenarians are enriched for protective factors that increase their ability to recover from infections,” said senior author Paola Sebastiani, PhD, director, Center for Quantitative Methods and Data Science, Institute for Clinical Research and Health Policy Studies at Tufts Medical Center. This was a study on centenarians, people that reached and passed 100 years of age. 

72% of centenarians live in rural areas, which researchers believe aids in their longevity. They also report quality sleep. Many live in care facilities, so it's difficult to say their nutrition is helpful or not because they eat what they are given, a mixed diet.

So, while I'm sure I won't change your mind. you are incorrect in your conclusion that the "Facts" are truthful and accurate. I encourage you to do your research and actually read the studies, not just the abstract. 

For those that want to hear this type of information from someone other than me, I encourage you to check out Dr. Anthony Chaffee, Dr. Shawn Baker, Dr. Phil Ovadia, Dr. Ken Berry. I'm a certified Ketogenic/Carnivore nutrition coach.

Your dispute is pure $$$$ - and thats undisputed - and I would discourage people to listen to industry sponsored people trying to sell you things but lower your lifespan and health - its really sad....

Keto's Popularity Is Fueled by Meat and Dairy Industry Marketing

The meat and dairy industries have been quick to capitalize on the keto trend. They've successfully positioned their products as "keto-friendly" staples, which has led to increased consumption of animal-based foods.

• Processed meats like bacon, sausage, and jerky are often marketed as "perfect for keto", even though these foods are highly processed and linked to cancer and heart disease.
• The butter industry has seen a massive resurgence thanks to keto influencers promoting bulletproof coffee (coffee with butter and oil).

 Marketing Impact:
Grocery stores now feature "keto sections" packed with animal-based products, encouraging people to double down on meat and dairy consumption while skipping over healthier plant-based options.

LOL and selling "plant-based" products isn't a marketing scheme? It totally is, and that can't be disputed. 

All foods are processed, unless you just pick your veggies out of the ground and start eating it without cleaning it, its processed. Bacon is cured, and jerky is dehydrated. They are not highly processed. I know because I make my own. 

If you are truly Ketogenic, you don't purchase ANY of the boxed, bagged labeled "keto" crap. You just eat meat. I don't do bulletproof coffee, because it's not necessary I would love to see who authored the article, they are typically vegetarian, if not vegan. 

There is no causation link between red meat and cancer or heart disease. Actually, quite the contrary, I have listened to individuals telling their story about being cured of cancer by completing a 21-day water fast and then adopting a high-fat meat-based ketogenic diet. These people had stage 3 & 4 cancer. Also, if you look at the link between reduction in red meat consumption and the increase in diseases, its undeniable.  Many of the diseases we have today didn't exist 150 years ago when we were eating a meat heavy diet. The first recorded case of heart disease by autopsy was in 1912, thirty years later it is the leading cause of death in America. 

Also, they are conducting studies now in regard to autism. Alzheimer's, and dementia; finding that children born to vegan/vegetarians are more likely to have autism and that people who consume animal fat are less likely to develop Alzheimer's or dementia. 

So, while I do applaud you for being steadfast in your belief, you have not provided valid evidence that being vegan is "healthy". Yes, it's better than the Standard American Diet, but it doesn't Trump what we have been designed to eat, which is meat. 

Please don't bring up the Game Changer "documentary" which was a propaganda plug for Beyond Meat sponsored by a vegetarian. Fascinating you won't see a carnivore trying to make meat taste like Broccoli, but vegans are always trying to make their veggies and beans taste like meat.