Haven't seen much about Atlanta next May. Seems like a National LMSC challenge would get a few swimmers motivated. Seems there ought to be a way to break up teams so that they are roughly comparable. What about a heavyweight division (100+ swimmers), light heavyweight division (75-100) middleweight (50-75) and lightweight (under 50)?
So far, I have the best hotel price - free. I'm staying with my parents at their house. They live about 30 min away. I will just have to drive down every day. The dorms sound like fun but my parents would be upset if I didn't stay with them.
Allen, did you notice the event order is the same as LCN in Portland? Yup - just different course.
Yep,and I didn't like it then either!
Does anyone think more folks will attend SCY Nationals this year because high tech tech suits will be illegal as of June 1st? Also, does anyone think that LCM Nationals will have a lower attendance because World Champs are right before that meet?
Just curious........
Thanks
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Does anyone think more folks will attend SCY Nationals this year because high tech tech suits will be illegal as of June 1st? Also, does anyone think that LCM Nationals will have a lower attendance because World Champs are right before that meet?
Just curious........
Thanks
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Yes and yes.Also I expect LCM to be smaller than usual because it is outside the continental US.
I also wonder if 2011 SCY Nats will be smaller than 2010 SCY Nats because of the suit ban. I'm cringing at the thought of possibly buying an inferior kneeskin for just under the price of a B70.
It's possible that 2011 SCY Nationals could be larger than 2010. I have heard some swimmers who do not want to buy a tech suit say that they won't go to nationals until tech suits are gone. They want to compete on an even field. Most of us who enjoy nationals will go regardless of the suit rules. I'm eager to see the new suits with the approved material. I'm really curious about the differences.
Check out our Executive Directors (Rob Butcher) views on suit regulations for masters swimming and USMS's decision to allow the tech suits for their short course yards meet:
www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/.../23200.asp
It's possible that 2011 SCY Nationals could be larger than 2010. I have heard some swimmers who do not want to buy a tech suit say that they won't go to nationals until tech suits are gone. They want to compete on an even field. Most of us who enjoy nationals will go regardless of the suit rules. I'm eager to see the new suits with the approved material. I'm really curious about the differences.
I think that the tech suit thing will be is a very minor factor in nationals attendance. If you look in appendix F in the Rule Book (on the history of USMS), there is a listing of the attendance of nationals by year on pp 160-161. There is pretty much variability from year to year (2006: 1276; 2007: 1456; 2008 1865; 2009 1582).
(And you can answer the following trivia questions: When/where was the first nationals? How many were there?)
Anyway, I think the location of nationals (and possibly the quality of the facility, as well as cost) is the overriding factor determining attendance.
When they received the bid, I thought Atlanta might be a popular one: cheap destination, awesome facility. I would think AZ will probably do well -- the meet in Tempe was well attended in 2003. But who knows?
What I do know is that if I just loved the tech suits but didn't like the nationals city, or if the timing was bad, I very much doubt the swimwear rule would sway me. I'd just taper for Zones and wear the suit there.
The main reasons for good attendance at Nats are-location,location,location.The next is if there is a Worlds around that time that slightly decreases turnout.I too doubt a significant suit effect.
Answer to question-Amarillo,TX 1970-I don't remember the exact #,less than 100 I think.
In the first 10 years, the number of swimmers grew rapidly for our Short Course National Championship:
Year Date Location Swimmers
1970 5/2–3 Amarillo, Tex. 46
1971 5/7–8 Amarillo, Tex. 108
1972 5/19–21 San Mateo, Calif. 325
1973 5/18–20 Santa Monica, Calif. 500
1974 5/17–19 Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. 561
1975 5/16–18 Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. 663
1976 5/14–16 Mission Viejo, Calif. 800
1977 5/13–15 Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. 611
1978 5/19–21 San Antonio, Tex. 560
1979 5/4–7 Mission Viejo, Calif. 1020