You know what's a little odd from glancing at the psych sheets? There aren't nearly as many Australians swimmings as I would have expected. It seems like the meet would be dominated by Australians, but it really isn't. Isn't masters swimming very popular in Oz?
Kirk: masters is very popular there, they have just the same issues that we have re time zones, transcontinental travel etc. & real life intruding into swim plans. What is marked is the mobility of masters from many other countries; truly now a world sport.
You could hang, I'm sure. Your 5:12 500 free converts to under 4:40 and that would seed you third in the 400 free.
I also noticed Karlyn Pipes-Nielsen is swimming for France. WTF?
Yeah, that's way worse than self-professed relay whore John Smith swimming for superteam Arizona at Nats. Deciding not to represent your country so you can have yet another relay world record to add to your already huge stockpile?! :shakeshead: She couldn't find fast people to swim with here?!?! I guess too many are at Nats instead ... I hope her individual times at Worlds aren't somehow eligible for listing under US Top Ten LC times since she's affiliated with another country. That would really suck. But I'm wondering if she's registered with USMS, they might still show up? Well, then she could be on both the European and USMS lists and do some real double dipping. Sorry to be cynical, but I've seen the professional masters swimmers tote up their rankings totals for swim clinics and whatnot ... I'm sure one of the Smiths will come along soon and explain how this is just dandy and advances the cause of increasing US masters participation ...
I enjoy swimming relays with the people I train with on my little local club team. Fortunately, superteam Arizona will not be able to catch my chick team in the 400 medley relay since it's not swum at Nats. :thhbbb:
As for the psych sheets, my age group appears to be quite a bit easier than 2006.
How would KPN get to swim for France? Do you need to be a citizen or what?
Citizenship is irrelevant in Masters swimming, swimmers compete for their club not their country and you can register with whatever club you like that will take you.
Yeah, that's way worse than self-professed relay whore John Smith swimming for superteam Arizona at Nats. Really, that rule should be fixed. I'm sorry. Deciding not to represent your country so you can have yet another relay world record to add to your already huge stockpile?! :shakeshead: She couldn't find fast people to swim with here?!?! I guess too many are at Nats instead ... I hope her individual times at Worlds aren't somehow eligible for listing under US Top Ten LC times since she's affiliated with another country. That would really suck. But I'm wondering if she's registered with USMS, they might still show up? Well, then she could be on both the European and USMS lists and do some real double dipping. Sorry to be cynical, but I've seen the professional masters swimmers tote up their rankings totals for swim clinics and whatnot ... I'm sure one of the Smiths will come along soon and explain how this is just dandy and advances the cause of increasing US masters participation ...
I enjoy swimming relays with the people I train with on my little local club team. Fortunately, superteam Arizona will not be able to catch my chick team in the 400 medley relay since it's not swum at Nats. :thhbbb:
As for the psych sheets, my age group appears to be quite a bit easier than 2006.
I have no idea why KPN is swimming for them....as for me, I've got ex-college teammates/friends in France, Sweden, Germany, Turkey, etc. etc. etc. and if any of them asked me to swim with their team and I was not already committed to a "club" team (remember, FINA does not allow "countries" to compete only "clubs" which I think is stupid) here in the US I'd say yes in a heartbeat.
Fort, you and many here feel strongly about the "local" level of being part of a team and i think that is great. For myself team has a broader meaning with regard to USMS and extends to friends, family, former teammates and people I've trained with or would like to get to know better...so I'm happy that there are no "rules" that dictate my choices as to how and with whom I chose to align with for meets.
PS; for the record I have registered in Arizona as "unattached' vs. with a local team as I consider the 3 teams I train with on different occasions to all be my "team(s)".
I have no idea why KPN is swimming for them....as for me, I've got ex-college teammates/friends in France, Sweden, Germany, Turkey, etc. etc. etc. and if any of them asked me to swim with their team and I was not already committed to a "club" team (remember, FINA does not allow "countries" to compete only "clubs" which I think is stupid) here in the US I'd say yes in a heartbeat.
Fort, you and many here feel strongly about the "local" level of being part of a team and i think that is great. For myself team has a broader meaning with regard to USMS and extends to friends, family, former teammates and people I've trained with or would like to get to know better...so I'm happy that there are no "rules" that dictate my choices as to how and with whom I chose to align with for meets.
PS; for the record I have registered in Arizona as "unattached' vs. with a local team as I consider the 3 teams I train with on different occasions to all be my "team(s)".
I understand your position with respect to competing in US Nats, and I have not been an outspoken "localist," although I admit I feel some allegiance to my local team -- though I only practice with them 1x a week. I'm not saying I'd never switch teams if my teammates were not competing and I had a chance to swim with other friends or go after a record. I would. But I wouldn't do it if I had the option of a Nats relay with my local teammates. (I do not this year, unfortunately, as only 3 women on my team are going. There we are in my avatar!! The rockin GMU backstrokers!! Yes, I'm the short one on the right.) And I would absolutely not change my country affiliation at a Worlds meet. And I would bet my new FS Pro that I have more ties to France than KPN.
Oh, who cares? We're just adult swimmers competing in an obsessive subculture and it's within the rules. I guess I'm just dreadfully old fashioned, although I thought I was an ALS ... KPN switches teams so often lately, it looks like record collecting. Perhaps she's just trying to get some publicity to support her profession ... and sell more DVDs, etc. Probably makes good business sense.
I'm also curious whether she'll end up on both the USMS and European LC lists for her "French" club swims. Can she break USMS records while swimming for France? I don't care vis-a-vis myself, I'm not really at her level. Nor am I a professional masters swimmer. But I wonder about the record collecting angle. Maybe an admin guru can come along and clear that up.
Meanwhile, I'll look forward to seeing you compete for Turkey. :thhbbb:
For the record, 35-39 Women (my age group) is insanely fast! :doh::notworthy:
You could hang, I'm sure. Your 5:12 500 free converts to under 4:40 and that would seed you third in the 400 free.
I also noticed Karlyn Pipes-Nielsen is swimming for France. WTF?
For the record, 35-39 Women (my age group) is insanely fast! :doh::notworthy:
Going through a pre-midlife crisis like me - it's all over when you hit 40?
I also noticed Karlyn Pipes-Nielsen is swimming for France. WTF?
Not too long ago there was a world record set in one of the relays by a French team, one of the members of which was KP-N.
