team scoring

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first of all, congrats to the meet directors and all the volunteers on a job well done. so organized and efficient!! very impressive. the only thing i wish someone could explain to me is why the usms champ. committee changed the team scoring from large, medium and small team to clumping everyone in the same category. seems extremely unfair to have what i call "real teams" competing against state mega teams. there is no possibility for "real teams" to ever come close to competing against them. if you are going to give team awards at the end of the meet, is there any way you can do it fairly? our team is extremely proud to have gotten as many team members as we did to go to natls. (most of them for the first time), but unfortunately they were very disillusioned (as was i) with the idea that we would be competing against state teams. as one of the coaches i didn't have an explanation. even though we were very proud of our 7th place finish in men's division, and our 12th place in combined, we were only one of a few "real teams" in the top ten. would appreciate responses. maybe even someone from the champ.committee could explain how they felt this scoring system would be more fair to the majority of swimmers. then i can pass it along to my teammates.. i don't want them to be so disillusioned that they lose interest in attending any future natls. thanks
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    ...the professional management guidelines are important, I would assume that only a minority of the House of Delegates (200 members) have an much of an interest in them. Those who do get worked up about the PMG would tend to join the American Management Association or the Association Management Services for Professional Associations, Trade Associations, and Non Profit Associations. :-) Interest and consequence are two very different things. More people are interested in scoring (I agree). Call me crazy if you want, but I'm more concerned with empowering an Executive Director to manage employees, because I feel it has greater consequence for USMS than the decade-long debate about who gets to take home a vinyl banner. Is there any reason that we cannot do both? That's honestly a very good question, and I think we can do both if we start thinking globally. Club scoring is not a global issue. Less than 5% of our members attended SC Nationals this year - not 28%. If 28% attended Nationals, we would have more than 10,000 swimmers competing. :bouncing:
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    ...the professional management guidelines are important, I would assume that only a minority of the House of Delegates (200 members) have an much of an interest in them. Those who do get worked up about the PMG would tend to join the American Management Association or the Association Management Services for Professional Associations, Trade Associations, and Non Profit Associations. :-) Interest and consequence are two very different things. More people are interested in scoring (I agree). Call me crazy if you want, but I'm more concerned with empowering an Executive Director to manage employees, because I feel it has greater consequence for USMS than the decade-long debate about who gets to take home a vinyl banner. Is there any reason that we cannot do both? That's honestly a very good question, and I think we can do both if we start thinking globally. Club scoring is not a global issue. Less than 5% of our members attended SC Nationals this year - not 28%. If 28% attended Nationals, we would have more than 10,000 swimmers competing. :bouncing:
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