team scoring

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Former Member
first of all, congrats to the meet directors and all the volunteers on a job well done. so organized and efficient!! very impressive. the only thing i wish someone could explain to me is why the usms champ. committee changed the team scoring from large, medium and small team to clumping everyone in the same category. seems extremely unfair to have what i call "real teams" competing against state mega teams. there is no possibility for "real teams" to ever come close to competing against them. if you are going to give team awards at the end of the meet, is there any way you can do it fairly? our team is extremely proud to have gotten as many team members as we did to go to natls. (most of them for the first time), but unfortunately they were very disillusioned (as was i) with the idea that we would be competing against state teams. as one of the coaches i didn't have an explanation. even though we were very proud of our 7th place finish in men's division, and our 12th place in combined, we were only one of a few "real teams" in the top ten. would appreciate responses. maybe even someone from the champ.committee could explain how they felt this scoring system would be more fair to the majority of swimmers. then i can pass it along to my teammates.. i don't want them to be so disillusioned that they lose interest in attending any future natls. thanks
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  • Separate the divisions at Nationals: Regional Team vs. Local Club Team Within these two divisions have SML.I don’t think anyone disputes that regional club teams and local club teams with SML is one of the viable solutions to team scoring at nationals. A couple of issues that I see are: 1) Defining in code what exactly is a local club or what is a regional club 2) Coming up with one solution that will receive majority support of our HOD in 2008 to prevent waiting for 2 more years I still believe our best solution is to make the Championship Committee responsible for team scoring at championships. This way instead of coming up with the definitive definition of a local club, they can, in policy, 1) describe the general characteristics of one or the other, 2) make a list of what they consider regional clubs, and 3) define an arbitration process to allow clubs to petition to change classifications. All of this could be done with one line of code in the rule book, and one section in the Championship Committee Policies and Procedures manual. And as a benefit it would provide the flexibility to tweak the model to meet championship host and member needs.
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  • Separate the divisions at Nationals: Regional Team vs. Local Club Team Within these two divisions have SML.I don’t think anyone disputes that regional club teams and local club teams with SML is one of the viable solutions to team scoring at nationals. A couple of issues that I see are: 1) Defining in code what exactly is a local club or what is a regional club 2) Coming up with one solution that will receive majority support of our HOD in 2008 to prevent waiting for 2 more years I still believe our best solution is to make the Championship Committee responsible for team scoring at championships. This way instead of coming up with the definitive definition of a local club, they can, in policy, 1) describe the general characteristics of one or the other, 2) make a list of what they consider regional clubs, and 3) define an arbitration process to allow clubs to petition to change classifications. All of this could be done with one line of code in the rule book, and one section in the Championship Committee Policies and Procedures manual. And as a benefit it would provide the flexibility to tweak the model to meet championship host and member needs.
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