first of all, congrats to the meet directors and all the volunteers on a job well done. so organized and efficient!! very impressive. the only thing i wish someone could explain to me is why the usms champ. committee changed the team scoring from large, medium and small team to clumping everyone in the same category. seems extremely unfair to have what i call "real teams" competing against state mega teams. there is no possibility for "real teams" to ever come close to competing against them. if you are going to give team awards at the end of the meet, is there any way you can do it fairly? our team is extremely proud to have gotten as many team members as we did to go to natls. (most of them for the first time), but unfortunately they were very disillusioned (as was i) with the idea that we would be competing against state teams. as one of the coaches i didn't have an explanation. even though we were very proud of our 7th place finish in men's division, and our 12th place in combined, we were only one of a few "real teams" in the top ten. would appreciate responses. maybe even someone from the champ.committee could explain how they felt this scoring system would be more fair to the majority of swimmers. then i can pass it along to my teammates.. i don't want them to be so disillusioned that they lose interest in attending any future natls. thanks
Hi,
Sorry I didn't comment sooner. Spent late Friday night/Sat morn with my daughter in the ER. Really sick. Still sick today, but at least the fever's down...
Leianne, I think it would be easier for us to define a local team because we're in one (that's what I tried to do, and if it isn't a local team then it's a regional one). Meg, I understand why it would seem we need to define each, however, we are defining the second by saying it isn't the first! :) Hee hee. Semantics, gotta love it.
I like Meg's definition. It's very basic, but a great place to start. This doesn't need to be complicated. I think what would be nice is to try to come up with a club definition, implement it at a Nationals and see what happens. Perhaps some teams (say in FL) will find a loophole or???
And while it may seem that we (or some of us) were off-task with our debating this issue, I think that we're having a valuable discussion to reiterate concerns all around. It does appear obvious that everyone knows what someone "means" when they say club vs. regional, we just need to define it- which we all agree is why we're here.
Looking at 201.2 that seems the logical place to start... Maybe combine it with the definition of an LMSC? Because if the clubs are registered THROUGH the LMSC then how can a club BE an LMSC?! Does that make any sense what I'm trying to say?
I think if nothing else, a nap is in order for me!
Hi,
Sorry I didn't comment sooner. Spent late Friday night/Sat morn with my daughter in the ER. Really sick. Still sick today, but at least the fever's down...
Leianne, I think it would be easier for us to define a local team because we're in one (that's what I tried to do, and if it isn't a local team then it's a regional one). Meg, I understand why it would seem we need to define each, however, we are defining the second by saying it isn't the first! :) Hee hee. Semantics, gotta love it.
I like Meg's definition. It's very basic, but a great place to start. This doesn't need to be complicated. I think what would be nice is to try to come up with a club definition, implement it at a Nationals and see what happens. Perhaps some teams (say in FL) will find a loophole or???
And while it may seem that we (or some of us) were off-task with our debating this issue, I think that we're having a valuable discussion to reiterate concerns all around. It does appear obvious that everyone knows what someone "means" when they say club vs. regional, we just need to define it- which we all agree is why we're here.
Looking at 201.2 that seems the logical place to start... Maybe combine it with the definition of an LMSC? Because if the clubs are registered THROUGH the LMSC then how can a club BE an LMSC?! Does that make any sense what I'm trying to say?
I think if nothing else, a nap is in order for me!
