Defining "Separate but Equal"

I’d like to start a general discussion about the “Separate but equal” rule (104.5.5C) that defines whether multiple courses used at a National championships can be considered “equal”. Background: We typically run our SC Nationals in two courses. One of the ways in which we save a great deal of time is by having heats of the same event run concurrently in both courses if the courses are considered competitively equivalent. (Otherwise, we have a “women’s” course and a “men’s” course.) It seems to me that in the recent past, we have considered courses “equal” even though there may have been some differences between them. (e.g. different heights for the starting blocks) The rule, as currently written, doesn’t give any specifications on how insignificant these differences need to be. The rule also allows the Championship Committee to ignore these differences if the meet timeline would run long by having separate-sex courses. Many forum contributors have recently expressed strong feelings for having tight control and uniformity regarding competitive conditions. So, I’d like to hear what you think about this issue, particularly if you have and/or will attend Nationals. (Note: I’m not trying to make any stand about the particular case with the upcoming Hawaii meet…I’m just wondering if we need to do something to the existing rule in the future – either by enforcing it differently or tightening it.) Starting with the items specifically listed in rule 104.5.5C… BULKHEAD TURNS – If one pool has a bulkhead turn, must the other pool(s) have a bulkhead turn to be considered “equal”? TYPE OF GUTTER / BLOCKS – Do all the starting blocks in all courses have to be the same height, size, and make/model? If not, how similar can they be? VISIBILITY OF TIMING DISPLAY – Do the scoreboards have to be the same size/make/model and do they need to be in the same relative position? If not, how similar can they be? DEPTH OF WATER – Does the depth of the courses have to be symmetrical? (equal uniform depth or depth that is uneven but similar) Does the depth have to be similar at each turn? …and are these other factors (not listed in the present rule) considered significant enough to render courses “unequal”?… LANE WIDTH – Is a pool with wider lanes “unequal” to the other? LANE LINES & FLAGS – Do the lane lines have to be the same size/diameter/number? Do the backstroke flags have to be the same size/number/height above water? TIMING SYSTEM – Do the timing systems have to be the same model from the same manufacturer and be equally calibrated? Do the touchpads have to be the same model/size? TEMPERATURE – If the pools are in separate basins, can they be of different temperatures? (Note: pools must be between 78-80F) OUTDOOR ORIENTATION – If the pools are outdoors, must they be oriented in the same direction and start from the same end? (Or can we do backstroke events only when it's night or overcast?) OPEN WATER ON SIDES – How much different can the distance/width be between the outermost lanes and the sidewalls for the courses to be “unequal”? …finally… THE COST OF TIME – What is an acceptable cost for ensuring that the meet is conducted on “equal playing fields”? If the meet would stretch beyond _____PM, would you relax your definition of “equal” pools in order to have an earlier finish?
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  • Dan, you raise some interesting issues, but I dont think that there is a good way to quantify separate but equal. The only thing that is consistent is that the slowest heat of the oldest age group is in Course A. If competitors put down the right seedtime, then the best swimmers of any age group are in the same heat (yes, I know there are some sandbaggers and that even a swimmer in a heat from the other course can out place swimmers in the fastest heat of the age group). If you remember in 1999, not one club bid for the 2001 SCY Championships. Santa Clara was asked to bid for the championships. The Championship committee walks a line in trying to get the venues for the National and the best swimming conditions for the swimmers. If the we had everyone compete on one course - conditions would be equal but the time line for the men’s course would drag out maybe another hour and since relays are run at the end of the day, there would be a lot of swimmers waiting for the men’s events to end. The championship committee is always interesting in improving the national championships. Not everything has to be in the rulebook, so send your ideas to Barry Fasbender, the Championship Committee Chair. Just remember everything has a price. michael
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  • Dan, you raise some interesting issues, but I dont think that there is a good way to quantify separate but equal. The only thing that is consistent is that the slowest heat of the oldest age group is in Course A. If competitors put down the right seedtime, then the best swimmers of any age group are in the same heat (yes, I know there are some sandbaggers and that even a swimmer in a heat from the other course can out place swimmers in the fastest heat of the age group). If you remember in 1999, not one club bid for the 2001 SCY Championships. Santa Clara was asked to bid for the championships. The Championship committee walks a line in trying to get the venues for the National and the best swimming conditions for the swimmers. If the we had everyone compete on one course - conditions would be equal but the time line for the men’s course would drag out maybe another hour and since relays are run at the end of the day, there would be a lot of swimmers waiting for the men’s events to end. The championship committee is always interesting in improving the national championships. Not everything has to be in the rulebook, so send your ideas to Barry Fasbender, the Championship Committee Chair. Just remember everything has a price. michael
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