Defining "Separate but Equal"

I’d like to start a general discussion about the “Separate but equal” rule (104.5.5C) that defines whether multiple courses used at a National championships can be considered “equal”. Background: We typically run our SC Nationals in two courses. One of the ways in which we save a great deal of time is by having heats of the same event run concurrently in both courses if the courses are considered competitively equivalent. (Otherwise, we have a “women’s” course and a “men’s” course.) It seems to me that in the recent past, we have considered courses “equal” even though there may have been some differences between them. (e.g. different heights for the starting blocks) The rule, as currently written, doesn’t give any specifications on how insignificant these differences need to be. The rule also allows the Championship Committee to ignore these differences if the meet timeline would run long by having separate-sex courses. Many forum contributors have recently expressed strong feelings for having tight control and uniformity regarding competitive conditions. So, I’d like to hear what you think about this issue, particularly if you have and/or will attend Nationals. (Note: I’m not trying to make any stand about the particular case with the upcoming Hawaii meet…I’m just wondering if we need to do something to the existing rule in the future – either by enforcing it differently or tightening it.) Starting with the items specifically listed in rule 104.5.5C… BULKHEAD TURNS – If one pool has a bulkhead turn, must the other pool(s) have a bulkhead turn to be considered “equal”? TYPE OF GUTTER / BLOCKS – Do all the starting blocks in all courses have to be the same height, size, and make/model? If not, how similar can they be? VISIBILITY OF TIMING DISPLAY – Do the scoreboards have to be the same size/make/model and do they need to be in the same relative position? If not, how similar can they be? DEPTH OF WATER – Does the depth of the courses have to be symmetrical? (equal uniform depth or depth that is uneven but similar) Does the depth have to be similar at each turn? …and are these other factors (not listed in the present rule) considered significant enough to render courses “unequal”?… LANE WIDTH – Is a pool with wider lanes “unequal” to the other? LANE LINES & FLAGS – Do the lane lines have to be the same size/diameter/number? Do the backstroke flags have to be the same size/number/height above water? TIMING SYSTEM – Do the timing systems have to be the same model from the same manufacturer and be equally calibrated? Do the touchpads have to be the same model/size? TEMPERATURE – If the pools are in separate basins, can they be of different temperatures? (Note: pools must be between 78-80F) OUTDOOR ORIENTATION – If the pools are outdoors, must they be oriented in the same direction and start from the same end? (Or can we do backstroke events only when it's night or overcast?) OPEN WATER ON SIDES – How much different can the distance/width be between the outermost lanes and the sidewalls for the courses to be “unequal”? …finally… THE COST OF TIME – What is an acceptable cost for ensuring that the meet is conducted on “equal playing fields”? If the meet would stretch beyond _____PM, would you relax your definition of “equal” pools in order to have an earlier finish?
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    Dan, I respect you, but this post is heading in a truly asinine direction. Do we really need to start finding reasons to disqualify pools from use in USMS certified competitions? Yes, there are differences in pools, and maybe some of them could make a miniscule difference in time. I appreciate that there are some swimmers who have detailed mental visualization techniques, and may change strategies depending upon pool conditions. (Really, I do, with only minimal eye-rolling...) In deference to the folks who want absolutely equal conditions for competition, I can accept the idea of every heat of a given event being swum in the same pool. (So for example in a zoo like SC Nationals, we would use pool A for the womens' 100 free, and running at the same time in pool B would be the mens' 100 free. It may be the men and women switch pools after each day, or even after each event, and there are real differences in the pool. So what? Every one of your competitors had to deal with those same conditions.) This is similar to the NCAA Basketball tournament, where some teams play on Thur & Sat, and some on Fri & Sun, but all teams play on the same days as their opponents for that week. At some point we need to reach the Jerry McGuire principal of "Just shut up and play the game." Or, we risk ending up like figure skating. This sport is supposed to be for fun, and fitness, and camaraderie. If someone is obsessing about 1/100th of a second because "that guy's lane is 2 feet deeper than mine," he has already started to lose perspective. Just my preemptive rant-du-jour. Matt
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    Dan, I respect you, but this post is heading in a truly asinine direction. Do we really need to start finding reasons to disqualify pools from use in USMS certified competitions? Yes, there are differences in pools, and maybe some of them could make a miniscule difference in time. I appreciate that there are some swimmers who have detailed mental visualization techniques, and may change strategies depending upon pool conditions. (Really, I do, with only minimal eye-rolling...) In deference to the folks who want absolutely equal conditions for competition, I can accept the idea of every heat of a given event being swum in the same pool. (So for example in a zoo like SC Nationals, we would use pool A for the womens' 100 free, and running at the same time in pool B would be the mens' 100 free. It may be the men and women switch pools after each day, or even after each event, and there are real differences in the pool. So what? Every one of your competitors had to deal with those same conditions.) This is similar to the NCAA Basketball tournament, where some teams play on Thur & Sat, and some on Fri & Sun, but all teams play on the same days as their opponents for that week. At some point we need to reach the Jerry McGuire principal of "Just shut up and play the game." Or, we risk ending up like figure skating. This sport is supposed to be for fun, and fitness, and camaraderie. If someone is obsessing about 1/100th of a second because "that guy's lane is 2 feet deeper than mine," he has already started to lose perspective. Just my preemptive rant-du-jour. Matt
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