I'm still waiting for someone to throw a meet where we can do a 400 IM with fins and allow dolphin kick on breaststroke, but, in the meantime, I'll enter the 50 free with fins at the upcoming Sun Devil Masters Sprinters Spectacular (www.clubassistant.com/.../meet.cfm. And, since I'm only training about 1500 meters a workout, I might have to limit myself to the 25s otherwise.