Hi, I can't say I'm experienced swimmer. I used to swim at school for 4 years then I had a break for 20 years. A year ago I restored my trainings (now I'm 35). So now in about 2 weeks I'm going to participate in competitions (just a small club masters event). I would like to know if I should add smth to my trainings or to remove smth. I'm going to swim 2 distances - 50m freestyle and 50m breaststroke. I would appreciate any help. :)
I'm training 3 times a week, swimming for 1 hour in a 50m pool.
Here are my 3 last trainings just to give an idea where am I:
1) Warm up:
1х200m IM. Rest: 10sec /200m
Core:
4x100m Fly 3+3+3. Rest: 10sec/100m
4x100m Freestyle 6+6+6. Rest: 8sec/100m
8x50m Freestyle. @ 60sec.
6x50m Freestyle kickboard. All out. Rest: 20sec/50m
1x400m Breaststroke kickboard. Rest: 10sec/400m
1x200m Freestyle. Rest: 8sec
4x50m Breaststroke Pull with a pull buoy. Rest: 20 sec/50m
Warm down:
2х50m Breaststroke.
2x50m Freestyle.
Total: 2700m
2)Warm up:
1х200m Breaststroke. Rest: 8sec /200m
4х50m Free. Catch up drill. Rest: 8sec/50m
Core:
3x (100m Fly. fins/100m Back easy) Rest: 10sec /50m5х200m Free. fins. paddles. Rest: 15sec /100m
1x300m Fly. kickboard. fins. Rest: 8sec / 300m
1х300m Free. kickboard. fins. Rest: 8sec / 300m
4x50m Free. kickboard. fins. @ 1:00
Warm down:
1х200m Back.
Total: 3000m
3)Warm up:
2х100m ***. Rest: 8sec /100m
2х200m IM. Rest: 10sec / 200m
Core:
6 x(100m Free/100m Back). Rest: 10sec/ 100m
10x50m Free. 50/50 All out/Easy Rest: 30sec / 50m
10х50m ***. 50/50 All out/Easy Rest: 30sec / 50m
Warm down:
2х100m Back.
Total: 3000m
My standard warmup is an 800 IM stroke drill. It starts off with 50 left-arm fly, 50 right-arm fly, 50 dolphin kick on my side, and then 50 full stroke fly. I do this pretty much every workout and meet warmup. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
What is the problem in warming up with IM or fly?
I don't think there is a problem including it as part of your warm up, but I wouldn't enjoy fly cold. Fly recovery requires a lot of flexibility and I would prefer reverse IM or fly drill as the beginning of warm up versus doing fly first thing.
I usually still feel cold when I get to that 50 fly. It forces me to wake up and swim. I've gotten used to it.
I'm fine with fly even been cold maybe because I don't swim all out during warm up. Perhaps it worth not to swim fly in warm up if you it takes too much effort but in that case it worth to work on fly technique by doing all sorts of drills.
I really wish I communicated more effectively.
You do 150 yards before attempting any fly, and that was my point, I wouldn't want to do fly cold. Debugger didn't say he was doing drylands, dynamic stretching, yoga, gymnastics or fly drill before he hopped in and started his IM. From what he posted, he hops into the water cold and starts doing fly. Full stroke fly. From the beginning. Cold.
Debugger, you can continue with your warm up method if it works for you. I would prefer something easier before doing fly, but then I would prefer never to do fly at all.
I usually still feel cold when I get to that 50 fly. It forces me to wake up and swim. I've gotten used to it.
My standard warmup is an 800 IM stroke drill. It starts off with 50 left-arm fly, 50 right-arm fly, 50 dolphin kick on my side, and then 50 full stroke fly. I do this pretty much every workout and meet warmup. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
I really wish I communicated more effectively.
You do 150 yards before attempting any fly, and that was my point, I wouldn't want to do fly cold. Debugger didn't say he was doing drylands, dynamic stretching, yoga, gymnastics or fly drill before he hopped in and started his IM. From what he posted, he hops into the water cold and starts doing fly. Full stroke fly. From the beginning. Cold.
Debugger, you can continue with your warm up method if it works for you. I would prefer something easier before doing fly, but then I would prefer never to do fly at all.
hey there
you have a swim meet in 2 weeks
racing 50 free & 50 ***
you're training 3x a week around 3k per practice
Do short fast stuff with much more rest, mostly 25's and a few 50's
Make a daily plan
Can you swim 4, 5, or 6 times a week?
Are you lifting weights?
Read Swim Faster Faster
Try the training ideas in the
Help! My ____ is Horrible!especially speed and flutter kick
here's the link to my blog where you can follow
each work out going into the 2008 nationals
Hi, I can't say I'm experienced swimmer. I used to swim at school for 4 years then I had a break for 20 years. A year ago I restored my trainings (now I'm 35). So now in about 2 weeks I'm going to participate in competitions (just a small club masters event). I would like to know if I should add smth to my trainings or to remove smth. I'm going to swim 2 distances - 50m freestyle and 50m breaststroke. I would appreciate any help.
I'm training 3 times a week, swimming for 1 hour in a 50m pool.
Here are my 3 last trainings just to give an idea where am I:
1) Warm up:
1х200m IM. Rest: 10sec /200m
Core:
4x100m Fly 3+3+3. Rest: 10sec/100m
4x100m Freestyle 6+6+6. Rest: 8sec/100m
8x50m Freestyle. @ 60sec.
6x50m Freestyle kickboard. All out. Rest: 20sec/50m
1x400m Breaststroke kickboard. Rest: 10sec/400m
1x200m Freestyle. Rest: 8sec
4x50m Breaststroke Pull with a pull buoy. Rest: 20 sec/50m
Warm down:
2х50m Breaststroke.
2x50m Freestyle.
Total: 2700m
2)Warm up:
1х200m Breaststroke. Rest: 8sec /200m
4х50m Free. Catch up drill. Rest: 8sec/50m
Core:
3x (100m Fly. fins/100m Back easy) Rest: 10sec /50m5х200m Free. fins. paddles. Rest: 15sec /100m
1x300m Fly. kickboard. fins. Rest: 8sec / 300m
1х300m Free. kickboard. fins. Rest: 8sec / 300m
4x50m Free. kickboard. fins. @ 1:00
Warm down:
1х200m Back.
Total: 3000m
3)Warm up:
2х100m ***. Rest: 8sec /100m
2х200m IM. Rest: 10sec / 200m
Core:
6 x(100m Free/100m Back). Rest: 10sec/ 100m
10x50m Free. 50/50 All out/Easy Rest: 30sec / 50m
10х50m ***. 50/50 All out/Easy Rest: 30sec / 50m
Warm down:
2х100m Back.
Total: 3000m
I would like to get more details.
Do I need to make some tapering in my case if I'm training 3 times a week?
What kind of workouts should I concentrate on? More sprint sets or just aerobic swimming adding 1-2 sprint sets? How long before the event is the best time to eat?
I read a lot about tapering but all the examples I saw are definitely for professionals they consider you make 6+ trainings a week and before competitions their workouts are not less than 3000meters (in season they swim much more) and 3000m - that is my normal training. So I'm a bit confused.
Thanks.
hey there
you have a swim meet in 2 weeks
racing 50 free & 50 ***
you're training 3x a week around 3k per practice
Do short fast stuff with much more rest, mostly 25's and a few 50's
Make a daily plan
Can you swim 4, 5, or 6 times a week?
Are you lifting weights?
Read Swim Faster Faster
Try the training ideas in the
Help! My ____ is Horrible!especially speed and flutter kick
here's the link to my blog where you can follow
each work out going into the 2008 nationals
I do concentrate now on 25's and 50's though still do some aerobic work and drills.
What kind of plan you mean? If trainings I've got plan till the event afternoon including warm up before the meet.
Regretfully it's impossible to swim 4, 5, or 6 times a week.
I don't lift any weights now and I don't think I need it right now. I'm ex-competitive bodybuilder though it was 14 years ago I'm still quite strong - endurance that was a concern when I returned back to swimming. I'm 5ft 11in 187 pounds (used to be 214 pounds). I'm rather thinking about adding some aerobic activity in summer to increase endurance.
Thanks for articles. Reading them now. :)