How Cheaters Cheat

How Cheaters Cheat in practice and meets might stir up a lively discussion. Here's the RULES Swimming Rules How do cheaters cheat? Got any stories? Did they get caught or get away with it? If you see someone cheating or know they are do you point it out to the ref or keep quiet?
  • How cheaters cheat,one way in BR is dolphin as soon as you hit the water,... Is it dolpining as part of the dive where the feet, calves haven't entered yet? PS. Can you do a pulldown in the other strokes?
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Which reminds me, is there anything worse then when you grab one of these "hand holds" and it just slides along the cable and you don't get any oomph out of it at all? From my experience, this happens because that rapscallion in the lane next to you is cheating by pulling on the hand hold. It is quite frustrating when I get it all stacked up in my favor and somebody swims along and spoils my party. Boo hoo.
  • My question is....ARE THEY BACK AND WERE ANY OF THEIR TOP TENS AND/OR RECORDS AND/OR RELAY RECORDS RESCINDED? I only know of one case, which doesn't mean there aren't others. I had to scrub all of this person's Top 10 swims from the pre-1993 data we loaded last year, so I assume this has been done for any other cases as well.
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Very interesting! ... some reference to banned or previously banned swimmers. And names weren't even named. My question is....ARE THEY BACK AND WERE ANY OF THEIR TOP TENS AND/OR RECORDS AND/OR RELAY RECORDS RESCINDED????? The rumor I heard wasn't from an authoritative source. I don't know the details of the punishment nor do I feel it appropriate to mention names in the case I was told about. It makes sense that the swims would have been disallowed from consideration for records/top ten as the swimmer had committed the infraction (falsifying entry) prior to the swim.
  • Is it dolpining as part of the dive where the feet, calves haven't entered yet? PS. Can you do a pulldown in the other strokes? I think it is not a dolphin kick if the feet haven't entered. You can do a pulldown in free as long as you don't go past 15M,but it probably isn't faster.You can do a pulldown in BK as long as you are on your back,in fact I do on the rare occasions I swim BK.(In the BK leg of the 100 IM I try to swim 15 M underwater BR on my back as my BR is much faster than my BK or my SDK.)
  • (In the BK leg of the 100 IM I try to swim 15 M underwater BR on my back as my BR is much faster than my BK or my SDK.)Just clarifying on this... you swim upside down *** stroke pull-outs for 15m? Interesting... I'm in the same situation (slow back/fast *** stroke) but I'd have never thought of trying something like this. edit: by "slow"... I mean slower than my *** stroke... not to imply that you swim any stroke slow... just that I'm slow... can someone pull my foot out of my mouth?
  • Just clarifying on this... you swim upside down *** stroke pull-outs for 15m? Interesting... I'm in the same situation (slow back/fast *** stroke) but I'd have never thought of trying something like this. edit: by "slow"... I mean slower than my *** stroke... not to imply that you swim any stroke slow... just that I'm slow... can someone pull my foot out of my mouth? I come off the wall on my back,do a dolphin kick,then do a BR pullout,then take 4 more BR strokes(regular stroke,except underwater on my back) and then surface(and slow down,my BK is bad.I swam a 200 BK LCM once and I had to make sure the timers had calendar watches.)
  • I come off the wall on my back,do a dolphin kick,then do a BR pullout,then take 4 more BR strokes(regular stroke,except underwater on my back) and then surface(and slow down,my BK is bad.I swam a 200 BK LCM once and I had to make sure the timers had calendar watches.) :lmao: I can relate, Allen! Although I am enjoying backstroke more (believe it or not!), it is still my slowest stroke- by far. I worked on the BR pullout on my back for awhile and feel I'm faster at it, too, but I run out of air too fast! And, on IM, I run out way to fast, right after fly. :badday:
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Me too. I've never once pulled on a lane line. I'm all about the one handed turns in practice though. I got tendonitis once from too much lane-line pulling. I'm better at it now though
  • I thought I had inadvertently cheated last year. I was swimming *** stroke on the 200 IM Relay and it was my first relay since I was 13. I got a little excited, dove in and forgot what stroke I was swimming. After one sdk it all came back and I quickly completed the pull-out and went on certain I'd be dq'd. I told my teammates what I did and that if we got dq'd it was my fault. They calmly replied "um... you can do that now."