Starts

I tried to find this topic unsuccessfully, forgive me if it has already been discussed. I recently finally started working on my dive starts, literally from a standpoint of never having done them before. I learned a lot watching my kids' coaches and videos, though. I have been diving into about 6 feet of water and find myself ending up about 5 inches from the bottom before dolphin kicking my way forward and up. When I watch videos of starts in the olympics, etc. these guys are diving into 13 feet of water or more, and seem to dive at least 5 feet (see this link of Phelps, around 45 second mark: YouTube - Michael Phelps freestyle multi angle camera ). In summer league, though, I see the older kids are diving into 5 feet with no problems. Do you guys start different ways depending on the water depth? Are your Masters meets in deep water usually? Am I going too deep when I dive, not so much from a safety standpoint but from a speed aspect? Last question, I remember my son's coach once telling the team to make the under water phase of their relay dives very brief. I couldn't tell if he was making a general statement on starts, or was that specific to relays. Any comments greatly appreciated.
  • You don't need hamstring flexibility to explode off the block... You only need the flexibility to get down to do the start. In fact from a coil/recoil perspective a little bit of tightness could theoretically give you more pop off the block. I think you are underestimating masters racing population.
  • Again, you don't need hamstring flexibility to do a track start, loaded or unloaded. In fact it takes less hamstring flexibility to do a track start in general because the feet are staggered. There are plenty of masters loading their track starts. A far as explosive (fast off the blocks), I don't think you can be if you lead from your hands. That is additional motion prior to engagement of the core and legs. Its fine to get your arms up fast but the core and legs must fire first. Whatever. I'm going back to lurking because apparently I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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    You are correct but that is using the slingshot start and there aren't too many Masters swimmers with the hamstring flexibility to pull one off. Again, you don't need hamstring flexibility to do a track start, loaded or unloaded. In fact it takes less hamstring flexibility to do a track start in general because the feet are staggered. There are plenty of masters loading their track starts. A far as explosive (fast off the blocks), I don't think you can be if you lead from your hands. That is additional motion prior to engagement of the core and legs. Its fine to get your arms up fast but the core and legs must fire first.
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    You are correct but that is using the slingshot start and there aren't too many Masters swimmers with the hamstring flexibility to pull one off. You don't need hamstring flexibility to explode off the block... You only need the flexibility to get down to do the start. In fact from a coil/recoil perspective a little bit of tightness could theoretically give you more pop off the block. I think you are underestimating masters racing population.