Swim Myth #7.....busted

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Myth #7: When it comes to getting oxygen in freestyle, breathing every cycle is as good as it gets. In almost every other sport but swimming (freestyle, fly, breaststroke), we get the luxury of breathing whenever we want. Typically, with maximal exertion, that means we are inhaling at a respiratory rate of between 50 and 65 times per minute. Not so in swimming. Most swimmers breathe every cycle and to one side only (a cycle is two arm strokes, or hand entry to hand entry). Since many swimmers turn their arms over slowly (say 35 to 55 strokes per minute), that means the respiratory rate while swimming is 18 to 28; hardly what one would do voluntarily, if one had the choice. (try running or biking with that respiratory rate and see how you do!) But you do have a choice...sort of. First, you can learn to swim with a higher stroke rate and second, you can try a different breathing pattern. Specifically, I am referring to a 2:3 pattern rather than a 1:2 pattern of breathing. What that means in the Left Stroke Breath Right (LBR), Right Stroke Breathe Left (RBL) Left Stroke no breath (L), Right Stroke no breath (R) terminology is the following: LBR, RBL, L, RBL, LBR, R, LBR, RBL, L etc So, as is so common in swimming, this too presents compromise. What are the pros and cons? Pros: You get 27% more oxygen than if you breathe every cycle, and with oxygen you'll produce 15 times more ATP than without it, and hopefully produce less lactate. You get the associated benefit of breathing more...less fatigue. You get to see the scenery on both sides of the lake or pool. Cons: Most swimmers feel awkward breathing to their weak side. The act of breathing slows the stroke rate. Breathing often results in the arm being pulled too far under the body, creating more drag. In open water swims, if there is a nice swell on one side, breathing to that side may lead to swallowing more water. So this begs the question, if this 2:3 pattern is so good, why aren’t world-class distance swimmers using it? A few have on occasion, like Kieren Perkins. It may be that it is yet an undiscovered technique...or, more likely, in the world of superbly conditioned, oxygen deprived distance swimmers, it may be that the cons outweigh the pros. But for this almost-60-year-old-not-so-superbly-conditioned swimmer, who enters an ocean swim once or twice a year and dislikes any pool race over 100 meters, I love the 2:3 pattern, especially on those long aerobic sets. And for those swimmers who dare to try it (and it takes some getting used to), you may not actually swim any faster than by breathing every cycle, but, barring swallowing more water, I'll bet you will feel a lot better afterward. Gary Sr.
  • Sorry to dust off this antique thread, but I just noticed something and wanted to share an example of 2:3 breathing pattern at an elite level. (Warning: You might want to turn down the volume because the Magyar commentator is very exuberant!) Darnyi Tamás - Szöul 1988 (400 vegyes) - YouTube It is Darnyi Tamas setting the world record for 400 IM in Seoul. The freestyle leg starts at 3:15 or so, and he is initially breathing nearly every stroke but when it evens out he is doing a 2:3 pattern. It seems he can't breathe enough!Thanks for posting this. So many interesting bits to note in this race compared to today like no underwater SDK and no rollover turns. Darnyi's breaststroke, if you watch compared to the other guys, is much more akin to the strokes you see today than the "flat" style that was more common then (e.g., see Wharton and whoever was in Lane 4). What a beautiful swim.
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    Sorry to dust off this antique thread, but I just noticed something and wanted to share an example of 2:3 breathing pattern at an elite level. (Warning: You might want to turn down the volume because the Magyar commentator is very exuberant!) Darnyi Tamás - Szöul 1988 (400 vegyes) - YouTube It is Darnyi Tamas setting the world record for 400 IM in Seoul. The freestyle leg starts at 3:15 or so, and he is initially breathing nearly every stroke but when it evens out he is doing a 2:3 pattern. It seems he can't breathe enough! In Barcelona, Darnyi again used 2:3 in the 400 IM but the footage is much less clear. Darnyi also had the world record at 200 IM. From what I can see it seems he is in "sprint mode" during the freestyle leg -- keeping his breathing to a minimum. So here is the same athlete using different breathing tactics for freestyle at 400 IM and 200 IM.
  • Some people must naturally have a higher revving breathing pattern
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    It actually looks like he doing a 3:4 breathing pattern at times. That is a great video. It is impossible to know how fast, but he would have been SO fast with all the changes and suit advances. He was clearly an outlier in the field. 4 guys battled for 2nd with 1.08 separting the 4. But Darnyi beats them by more than 2 seconds.
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    I have been experimenting with this pattern and instantly I felt better. Still having some issues exhaling forcefully enough on consecutive breaths, but it's coming. It proves to me I *thought* I was exhaling completely, but really never was. Typically anything over a 200 and I was in serious oxygen debt, but peeled off a nice 500 with flip turns and was laughing under water at how fun it was to not be worried about shallow water blackout! Anyone have any tips or tricks on retraining your brain to exhale hard enough on the consecutive breaths so that you can get a nice full breath? THIS is a great problem to have, but would like to learn how others adapted and apply those traits. Thanks Gary!
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    Gary I have experimented with this pattern the last week and feel outstanding...WOW! Question: I do struggle with getting a full breath on the 2nd consecutive so is this merely a function of exhaling more forcefully? Timing issue I'm not aware of? I am always instantly exhaling though my nose if my face is in the water. Perhaps I need to exhale through my mouth to get more out? Thanks
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    Exhale out of both the mouth and nose. If you only use the mouth you can take water in through the nose when explosive breathing. Gary I have experimented with this pattern the last week and feel outstanding...WOW! Question: I do struggle with getting a full breath on the 2nd consecutive so is this merely a function of exhaling more forcefully? Timing issue I'm not aware of? I am always instantly exhaling though my nose if my face is in the water. Perhaps I need to exhale through my mouth to get more out? Thanks