With all due respect to Ande, who tried to get me to buy a tech suit at Nationals (Ande, thanks for the compliment when you guessed my size, but I would wear a 36 in a tech suit, not a 26.), I respectfully submit my top ten reasons for hating tech suits:
1. $$$ Too expensive. I feel my money was better spent at The Athlete Village, having a video analysis done of my breaststroke. Implementing the tips I picked up from the online coach will help me to swim faster faster than a tech suit.
2. Struggle to put on. In the time it took a couple of gals in the locker room at Nationals to get their suit half-way on, I was out of my street clothes, into my Speedo Endurance suit, and had my bag unpacked and into the locker. And, I had expended a lot less energy than they did. I would rather spend my energy in the pool… :D
3. Too fragile. See Allen Stark’s post about his tech suit blowout- right before his event. I would be steaming big time if I had spent a heap of $ on a tech suit, then have it rip on me. :bitching:
Speaking of steaming…
4. The heat factor. I have heat intolerance medical issues (I love the heat mentally; my body hates it in a serious way), so being encased in a tech suit would exasperate the situation and possibly negate any gain I had made wearing the suit anyway. I was in Sunday’s last event (200 breaststroke) and was wasted by that point, after spending three days in the heat and humidity. :badday:
5. I want an apples-to-apples comparison of my times. I (barely) beat my seed times in two of my events and dropped my time about 2 seconds in another. If I had worn a tech suit and improved my times even more, would that have been a fair comparison- or would it have been the suit? I think a tech suit would have provided a false sense of success and an inaccurate indication as to my level of improvement since my previous meet. Then, post-tech suit, if my times got worse how would I feel then? I wonder how many of the swimmers will feel when they see (possibly) seconds being added back on to their times, post-tech suit? A false sense of success followed by huge disappointment is going to play on many minds, I’m sure. :confused:
6. Wearing a tech suit only exposes the arms and feet. I like to FEEL of the water with more than that. :agree:
7. Claustrophobic; too confining. I love summer, because I get to live in shorts and t-shirts. The less on me the better; it's more comfortable. :)
8. My current ranking #130 of 266 in the 50 breaststroke doesn’t put me in a position to be winning any medals or awards. Where would a tech suit put me in the rankings? #125? #120?? Even #100? Big deal! :rolleyes:
9. Personally, modesty isn’t an issue. At 48, I’m comfortable in my 5’71/2, 123lb. frame. And, I was comfortable in my not-as-fit 150lb pound frame, when I spent six months in Australia, back in 1984, where I spent some of the time relaxing on their nude beaches. Why? Because Aussies are comfortable in their skin and not hung up on their bodies like Americans are. Nude and topless beaches are common in Australia and you will see bodies of all shapes and sizes there. And, nobody cares. :)
Speaking of bodies…
10. Visualize Mark Spitz…1972 Olympics… in a Speedo… :D I was only 10 years old, but, believe me, my eyes were GLUED to the TV- and not necessarily only while he was swimming. Need I say more? Not all Masters swimmers look as good as Mark Spitz in a Speedo, but I saw PLENTY of AARP eligible swimmers out of their tech suits at Nationals that had absolutely stunning bodies- male and female! And, for those who weren’t? So what???
That concludes my :2cents: on the subject!
Former Member
You would be ok having about 85% of the membership that does not compete have an equal voice with about the 15% of members that do compete, when it comes to deciding how competition should be run?
That would be like letting a blind guy drive an 18 wheeler through city streets.
Since when does minority rule? Just wondering...
Former Member
Since when does minority rule? Just wondering...
When was the last time the organization did the will of the majority? When talking about competitions, the minority that compete should be given a higher voice than those that don't.
Former Member
One of the questions we should be trying to answer is this:
If, like Dave Barra said in another post that there are 50,000 members in USMS (Someone know the real #?) and only 2,000 show up at Nationals... why aren't the other 48,000 people, or at least a good portion of them coming to Nationals?
Cost of traveling?
Cost of Tech Suits?
Fear of competing?
Don't feel welcome here?
I would ask people on here to go back and read some of the posts people put on here...If I were new to this sport and came in here and read some of the bashings...and was thin skinned...I would think twice about ever going to a large meet with some of the people in here...
You can always pray for our souls and ask for us to see the error of our ways in expressing our opinions.
Oh please save me for I have sinned by rejoicing in my right of freedom of speech. Oh I beg thee for grace and salvation
Former Member
Who says those people aren't going to compete in the future? So why shouldn't they get a voice now?
The numbers show that the vast majority don't compete. If this is about the competitive side of usms, then the competitors are the ones that usms needs to hear from.
Why would you want future competition decisions decided by people that haven't competed and may never compete? They can express their opinion but usms should not let their voice carry equal weight.
Former Member
I know from Quicken that I spend less per year on swimming than my wife does on training for half marathons.
BAD example...women would spend more on fresh air than men if there was a trip to the mall involved...
:bolt:
Former Member
You can always pray for our souls and ask for us to see the error of our ways in expressing our opinions.
Oh please save me for I have sinned by rejoicing in my right of freedom of speech. Oh I beg thee for grace and salvation
Now who is being a moron and making fun of others beliefs?
Yeah, I am a Christian!!! I have left that out of this until now!!! Do you really want me to get started here?
Former Member
Yeah, I don't think any of Tracy's reasons are that valid. People don't attend Nationals or other meets because they are busy with other aspects of their lives or don't care to compete. And masters swimmers, on the whole, are a welcoming bunch even if we like to talk trash on line.
I'm still wondering why devoted non-competitors care that much about what competitors wear.
Maybe you should take the time to actually talk to some of those who don't compete and see what they say...I have talked to several that have stated exactly what I put above...that's where I got them from...so to say those are invalid reasons is flat out wrong..
Former Member
Now who is being a moron and making fun of others beliefs?
Yeah, I am a Christian!!! I have left that out of this until now!!! Do you really want me to get started here?
Awww...did little burkie get his feathers ruffled? You can start whatever you want, it's a free country.
As I said...freedom of speech
Former Member
Awww...did little burkie get his feathers ruffled? You can start whatever you want, it's a free country.
As I said...freedom of speech
Looks more like you are the one who got offended...even posted your message twice to make sure it got on there...obsess much?
If you think you can offend me...you're a little simple minded...
Former Member
lmao. Touche.
He said some are fatties: "we need to stop turning a blind eye to our members who lead unhealthy lifestyles and stuffing their overweight bodies into slimming tech suits."
He said that about me? Wait til our next 50 BR Muppet!! ;)
beware the fat angry guy with a point to prove...
I think we need to leave Elaine alone and be a bit less harsh on her. She stated her opinions and previous experiences on this thread let others to get on her. I don't care about the suits either way, but I have worn them and found it fun and a learning tool. I think with or without them, and maybe because of them, some paradigm shifts in swimming will occur and time will fall.
I feel for those who feel financially resistant to pay for a suit but if they don't they will not rank where they would if all wore lycra only.
That said if I was close to hitting a TT or record...I'd probably suck up and get one if it was the only way to beat the next guy...for me I have way to much to pick up in skill and fitness to worry about the suit for now. I am a purist for my swims, but I care less if anyone else wants to wear them to go the same speed as me....or thereabouts.
Elaine...use whatever font you like.
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