Tired of cramping!

So I'm looking for a lot of different kinds of advice: I first started swimming about 5 years ago during college, swam for (roughly) 2 years, and then had 3 years break while I was getting through a lot of transitions in my life. (Graduating college, getting a job, etc...) I started swimming again in February and have since lost about 40 pounds (and working on the 45th right now). However - this was not without a dietary overhaul, and lifestyle overhaul. I now lift, coach/play basketball with a youth league, and swim, but with the summer approaching, I'm concerned about stretching myself potentially too thin (something I'm VERY prone to do). As the summer gets in to full swing, I have a basketball league, a slow pitch softball league, plus still coaching/playing, lifting, and swimming. So the subject of this thread comes in - once I hit about yard 3000 of any given masters practice (some have been up to 4800 thus far) - my achilles, calves, ankles, etc all start cramping up like crazy and it makes it extremely difficult to finish any given practice. I eat at least 1 banana a day, drink roughly 1-2 gallons of water a day (difficult to keep track), and eat other high potassium foods consistently (avocados, plum prunes...). So naturally - I have a few questions going forward (and these are just the start!) 1) Is there a solid resource that any of you use that helps you plan meals, balance your diet and minimize recovery times? 2) Where do many of you go to find good lifting programs that are going to keep things mixed up and are going to impact the full body? 3) I know rest is an essential part of growth during a workout program - is there a resource that you use to help you figure out what's the "right" amount for you depending on your activity level? 4) What are your feelings on things like Gatorade? I look at it mostly as sugar water and the only times I'm prone to drinking it is during meets when I can't really eat. Thanks in advance! I appreciate any suggestions you may have!
  • You've received some good advice so far. With all the water you're drinking, I'm wondering if you're actually flushing electrolytes out of your system. I think I was doing the same thing until recently. I have started to drink water with Nuun tablets added -- they are essentially calorie-free (6 calories per tablet, which is added to 16 oz. of water). Miraculously, I haven't had a problem with cramping since I substituted Nuun for plain water during the day and during workouts. The tablets come in tubes, which is incredibly convenient and portable. It tastes pretty good, too, and comes in several different flavors. I don't have any financial interest in Nuun, but it has worked for me. http://www.nuun.com/ You can also order them from http://www.swimoutlet.com. Good luck! I was thinking the same thing. Too much water will flush electrolytes and salt out of your system, making you more prone to cramps. I say drink SmartWater, Endura or use Nuun tablets during the day. As for the post-workout recovery drinks, I don't think they're superior to actual food. But you have to get to the actual food in time for it to be effective. I find the recovery drinks and protein bars to be super convenient. And I spent a lot of time in a car and can't always rush home to eat after a workout(s). See myfitnessdepot.com/.../
  • I was thinking the same thing. Too much water will flush electrolytes and salt out of your system, making you more prone to cramps. Good point! :applaud: I forgot to mention the "but" part... Make sure you are well hydrated before and during your workouts, BUT, make sure to replace the electrolytes and sodium you are losing! I'm not losing anything until AFTER my swim, because I'm working out in our 84 degree :bitching:, indoor community pool. So, I'm retaining a lot of fluid during my swim. But, if I don't drink continually, it triggers other health problems (I'll spare you the details...). And, I don't have problems with the quantity of water I'm drinking causing stomach cramps. If I DON'T drink enough fluid, I'm sure to get leg and toe cramps, especially swimming breaststroke.
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    I do drink tons of water during the day... these desk jobs enable me to pretty much just sit @ my desk and chug water all day. Not that I enjoy sitting all day - but it does make it easier to control your hunger and thirst. I also drink at least 20 Oz during the workout, but not too much. My stomach gets so tight I get kind of sick if I'm not careful of what I down during and before a workout. (I can't eat within 4 hours of a workout!) (http://instantrimshot.com/) You've received some good advice so far. With all the water you're drinking, I'm wondering if you're actually flushing electrolytes out of your system. I think I was doing the same thing until recently. I have started to drink water with Nuun tablets added -- they are essentially calorie-free (6 calories per tablet, which is added to 16 oz. of water). Miraculously, I haven't had a problem with cramping since I substituted Nuun for plain water during the day and during workouts. The tablets come in tubes, which is incredibly convenient and portable. It tastes pretty good, too, and comes in several different flavors. I don't have any financial interest in Nuun, but it has worked for me. http://www.nuun.com/ You can also order them from http://www.swimoutlet.com. Good luck!
  • SmartWater or generic equivalent from grocery store. Hammer Nutrition products or similar.
  • For me at least, cramping is directly endurance related if I'm hydrated and nourished and still cramp. Similar to lactate buffering, there's a cramping mechanism that needs buffering too. Do you notice any increase of duration before cramping occurs as endurance increases over time?
  • So naturally - I have a few questions going forward (and these are just the start!) 1) minimize recovery times 2) Where do many of you go to find good lifting programs that are going to keep things mixed up and are going to impact the full body? 3) I know rest is an essential part of growth during a workout program - is there a resource that you use to help you figure out what's the "right" amount for you depending on your activity level? 4) What are your feelings on things like Gatorade? I look at it mostly as sugar water and the only times I'm prone to drinking it is during meets when I can't really eat. 1.) I struggle with recovery myself, especially after a hard double workout. I try to eat carbs and protein immediately after practice. Not an hour later, right after. You can use a powder (Hammmer, Endurox, PureSport, Muscle Milk, etc) to make a post workout recovery drink. Since whey doesn't always agree with me, I often eat an energy bar (I like Protein Fusion) or down 25 oz of liquid protein (the tubes often contain potassium and sodium as well) with a banana. The tubes are great because you can hop out of the pool and drink it down immediately. I'm trying these right now: www.mothernature.com/.../206592.html 2) P90X 3) I force myself to take one day off a week. 4) Gatorade gives me heartburn personally, so I don't drink it. However, I have struggled with cramps and find it essential to drink something with electrolytes in it. My cramps have diminished quite a bit my drinking Smart Water during workout and throughout the day. Or you can make your own electrolyte drink. I like the Gu Brew blueberry pomegranate flavor. I also like Endura because it is gluten/lactose free. You may also need magnesium to help with the cramping; a magnesium deficiency is common among adults even when you're eating healthy. There is a product called Sport Legs that contains magnesium & calcium that you can take before exercising. Magnesium also comes in liquid and powder form.
  • I eat at least 1 banana a day, drink roughly 1-2 gallons of water a day (difficult to keep track), and eat other high potassium foods consistently (avocados, plum prunes...). Are you drinking water BEFORE and DURING your workout? That's the key for me; being well-hydrated when I start and drinking between intervals throughout my workout. My workouts average 3,000 yards and I will finish off my two, 20oz bottles before I'm done. Being well hydrated DURING your swim is THE BEST way to avoid cramps. Getting enough potassium is important, too, and it sounds like you're doing that.
  • Do you notice any increase of duration before cramping occurs as endurance increases over time? Over the last couple months I definitely have... and I'm trying to swim like I was when I had those 2 years of training in (pushing myself pretty hard in practice..) So I'm wondering if I'm just "used to it" yet... I just feel like I should be able to perform better. Are you drinking water BEFORE and DURING your workout? I do drink tons of water during the day... these desk jobs enable me to pretty much just sit @ my desk and chug water all day. Not that I enjoy sitting all day - but it does make it easier to control your hunger and thirst. I also drink at least 20 Oz during the workout, but not too much. My stomach gets so tight I get kind of sick if I'm not careful of what I down during and before a workout. (I can't eat within 4 hours of a workout!) SmartWater or generic equivalent from grocery store. Hammer Nutrition products or similar. You can use a powder (Hammmer, Endurox, PureSport, Muscle Milk, etc) to make a post workout recovery drink. Since whey doesn't always agree with me, I often eat an energy bar (I like Protein Fusion) or down 25 oz of liquid protein (the tubes often contain potassium and sodium as well) with a banana. The tubes are great because you can hop out of the pool and drink it down immediately. I've seen smart water before - I've just never had the opportunity to try it. I'll look in to it! Thanks for the tip! As far as Hammer Nutrition, Endurox, PureSport, etc... goes - I've never had any of it before and I'm really new to the whole "specialized foods" and nutritional supplements. Are they worth the investment over the long term? Or is eating natural better for the body in general? 2) P90X I've wanted to try that for MONTHS! I really want to get my hands on it - I just need a place to do it. (My place is VERY short, or I'm just very tall.....) You may also need magnesium to help with the cramping; a magnesium deficiency is common among adults even when you're eating healthy. I will REALLY look into this. I have no idea what my magnesium intake is like. Thank you all so much!! I'm glad there are places like this so I don't find myself too far underwater! (http://instantrimshot.com/)
  • I will REALLY look into this. I have no idea what my magnesium intake is like. Thank you all so much!! I'm glad there are places like this so I don't find myself too far underwater! (http://instantrimshot.com/) About all you could want to know about Magnesium: whfoods.org/genpage.php
  • I am hit or miss on cramping also... But feel absolutely SURE that it has NOTHING to do with the amount of coffee I drink! :) Some best laid plans have been foiled or enhanced by coffee. I love :coffee: Its' always a good game.