Is it possible to improve THAT fast?

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I was just reading this blog:chuckiev.blogspot.com/.../swimming-thoughts-galore.html This guy claims that he never swam before in his life. At first it took him 36 minutes to swim 1500 meters. After only one year he could swim that in LESS than half the time. After 17 years of swimming I can't swim 1500 meters in less than 18 minutes. Either I'm doing something wrong or that guy is full of..... Is it possible to get that fast THAT FAST?
  • it's possible but unlikely the World record for 1500 freestyle is 14:34.56 by Grant Hackett from Australia We need to get more facts about his situation and the actual swim, like: scm or lcm, how old was he? I need more facts as for you, stop Comparing and Despairing Read Tip 80 Comparing and Desparing you can Swim Faster Faster Read em & reap, now get to work Ande I was just reading this blog:chuckiev.blogspot.com/.../swimming-thoughts-galore.html This guy claims that he never swam before in his life. At first it took him 36 minutes to swim 1500 meters. After only one year he could swim that in LESS than half the time. After 17 years of swimming I can't swim 1500 meters in less than 18 minutes. Either I'm doing something wrong or that guy is full of..... Is it possible to get that fast THAT FAST?
  • Lefty- I think in cycling and in running, 5K is either 2.7 or 3.2 miles. I can never remember. Definitely do-able in 48 minutes. :twocents:
  • Sub 19 would have easily been a top 10 swim in 1990 in the 1500M (when the swim feat was accomplished) Hmmm, I wish the top 10 went back that far so we could see exactly what this guy did. I'm wondering if it's a case of "the older I get, the faster I was." Remember he said he swam 1500 meters in "less than half the time" he did (36:00) a year before, so that means he went under 18:00. It's possible, but I'm definitely skeptical. I looked at the USMS archive site and a search for his last name (Veylupek) didn't come up with any matches.
  • I'm wondering if it's a case of "the older I get, the faster I was." Remember he said he swam 1500 meters in "less than half the time" he did (36:00) a year before, so that means he went under 18:00. It's possible, but I'm definitely skeptical. I looked at the USMS archive site and a search for his last name (Veylupek) didn't come up with any matches. He could have done a Recognized Masters meet. You don't to be registered with USMS to do it. Don't get me started on these meets! :bitching: But, still, why would you swim a 1500 and not be registered with USMS so it could be in the Top Ten. That is the main reason why I do the 1500. OH yeah, I don't have any fast twitch muscles for sprinting.
  • We need to get more facts about his situation and the actual swim, like: scm or lcm, how old was he? Based on other info he was born probably in 1969. He says he was 21 when he did that swim. The guy is certainly a great athlete. He was 11th in the Hawaii Ironman in 1994 and won Ironman Canada one year. In Hawaii he was 15th coming out of the water with a time of 51:44. That's a pace of just over 20 minutes for 1500 meters. ironman.com/.../1994.pdf
  • Sub 19 would have easily been a top 10 swim in 1990 in the 1500M (when the swim feat was accomplished) Hmmm, I wish the top 10 went back that far so we could see exactly what this guy did. Top Ten from 1990 in 18-24 age group (sorry for the poor formatting): Michael D Collins 24 17:29.87 Chris Sikes 24 18:39.30 Craig Paradee 21 18:42.40 Thorsten Anderson 23 19:25.30 Steve Olson 21 19:47.00 Geoff Ellett 21 20:15.27 Bruce D Christenson 23 21:00.39 Christopher J Krupiarz 23 21:12.42 Keith J Yost 21 21:45.10 James R Moore 23 21:55.13 The following swims are the only recorded TT times faster than 18 min that age group: Keith Ryan 23 17:12.07 2007 James D Allen 24 17:12.51 1991 Brad Winsor 23 17:12.53 1995 Keith R Ryan 24 17:17.48 2008 David Spires 22 17:23.27 2005 Keith Ryan 22 17:24.11 2006 Steve Cohen 21 17:28.17 1993 Michael D Collins 24 17:29.87 1990 Sam J Chestnut 22 17:34.63 1992 Michael D Collins 23 17:43.31 1989 Matthew Roper 23 17:44.50 2004 Keith R Ryan 21 17:45.50 2005 Matthew D Roper 24 17:54.18 2005 Thomas A McCleary 24 17:55.72 1987 Jamie Lipszyc 24 17:56.71 1996 Shawn l Kline 24 17:57.59 1992
  • Is this for long course, Chris? What about short course, or heck, even the 1650? One of the guys in that list, Chris Krupiarz, was a teammate and friend of mine in age group swimming!
  • okay not to pooh-pooh anyone but I do have one small problem: This was in the blog: "So, JD, ready for some 5K TTs at Scott Carpenter Pool when I return to Boulder?! Give me 12 weeks and we'll get you down to 48-minutes!" Not one single soul in the world can do 5,000M in 48 minutes. It is possible he was referring to a 5,000Y in which case I would say there are a few people who can do that but none of them are swimming Masters, much less triathlons. Sub 19 would have easily been a top 10 swim in 1990 in the 1500M (when the swim feat was accomplished) Hmmm, I wish the top 10 went back that far so we could see exactly what this guy did. Scott Carpenter is a LCM pool and a pretty slow one at that. Plus, it's at 5300 ft altitude.
  • I think in cycling and in running, 5K is either 2.7 or 3.2 miles. 3.1 miles, actually. Definitely do-able in 48 minutes. Yeah, running or on a bike! :) By the way, the fastest USMS time for the 5K postal is 58:23:56 by Jeff Erwin. Swimming a 5K in 48 minutes requires a pace of 57.6 seconds/100 meters and that's faster than Hackett's WR 1500 pace.
  • I just posted on his blog asking which meet he did this in. I'm not buying it.