the order for IM is
fl bk br fr
but if you could change up the order of the IM
there are 24 stroke order combinations to choose from
They are:
fl bk br fr IM order
fl bk fr br
fl br bk fr
fl br fr bk (i think this is the fastest order)
fl fr bk br
fl fr br bk
bk fl br fr medley order
bk fl fr br
bk br fl fr (this is probably the slowest order, because you get no flip from fly to free)
bk br fr fl (this might be the most painful order)
bk fr fl br
bk fr br fl
br fl bk fr
br fl fr bk (tyler thinks this is the fastest order)
br bk fl fr
br bk fr fl
br fr bk fl
br fr fl bk
fr fl bk br
fr fl br bk
fr bk br fl
fr bk fl br
fr br bk fl
fr br fl bk
If normal stroke rules apply:
Which order is the fastest?
Why?
Which order is the slowest?
Why?
Which order is most painful?
if you moved breastroke to first or second in order would breastrokers have less of an advantage in IMs than they do with the traditional order?
a pretty easy work out would be
24 x 100 IM doing each stroke order sequence once
More challenging might be
24 x 200 IM doing each stroke order sequence once
seriously challenging would be
24 x 400 IM doing each stroke order sequence once
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I agree in part with Tyler on the "fastest" order
*** first - you gain so much more from the dive and you are freshest;
Fly second - you are used to a double hand touch and turn;
whether free or back 3rd or 4th - we were not allowed flip turns from free to back; I think it is more relative - are you a better backstroker than the person next to you to hang on during the 2nd 50.
The breastroke girls were NOT happy with *** being first - they thought they would lose a lot of competitive advantage.
Whether you actually swim faster depends on who you are racing and can you still swim fast while giggling, and if you are mentally tough enough to remember the order of strokes and how you have to do the turns, which is harder than you might think! The order of events was announced during the last 15 minutes of warmup.
Since your sets are more than my total daily yardage, I would do this set as:
10 x 100's as follows:
Every third ALL OUT!!! Not workout all out, not a set of 4 all out but really decending, but ALL OUT!! Start with 1, 4, 7, and 10
So you are only doing 4 but a very fast 4.
Right before each one, have the coach randomly give you the order - it can be any order EXCEPT traditional IM order.
Every 2, 3 is easy free.
Optional dive.
Generous interval
I would immediately decide to take the next day off after hearing the set, as part of my motivation to really do it ALL OUT!
Anything with back first is going to be slower just because a backstroke start will be slower than a forward start from the blocks. I like your pick of fly, ***, free, back as the fastest. You get a forward start, you get fly done with first, and you get the advantage of a flip going from free to back.
Anything with back first is going to be slower just because a backstroke start will be slower than a forward start from the blocks. I like your pick of fly, ***, free, back as the fastest. You get a forward start, you get fly done with first, and you get the advantage of a flip going from free to back.
That might be the fastest, but it would still be my second choice. My first choice would be ***-fly-free-back. The more time underwater in evil the better! And I like having my best/easiest stroke last. Easier to breathe when you need oxygen too.
I've always thought they should just leave the order up to the competitor. You could choose what you want and wouldn't have to specify the choice beforehand (but if you started with backstroke you could do a dive start and flip over on your back).
IM races are often the most fun events to watch anyway due to lead changes but this would make it even better.
I've always thought they should just leave the order up to the competitor. You could choose what you want and wouldn't have to specify the choice beforehand (but if you started with backstroke you could do a dive start and flip over on your back).
IM races are often the most fun events to watch anyway due to lead changes but this would make it even better.
Totally agree!
And I agree with the other poster that back-free-***-fly would be most painful for me.
I've always thought they should just leave the order up to the competitor. You could choose what you want and wouldn't have to specify the choice beforehand (but if you started with backstroke you could do a dive start and flip over on your back).
IM races are often the most fun events to watch anyway due to lead changes but this would make it even better.
This would be fun! I'd even bring a camera to tape -no, not the swimmers, but all the funny outtakes of the stroke/turn judges and see how they are able to watch 4 lanes each and keep track of who swam which strokes in what lane.
Just think if they ever applied that to the 200 and 400 IM - any order, as long as you do 2 lengths or 4 lengths of each stroke SOMEWHERE in that 200/400 IM, tee hee!!
My sister is taking classes to become a swimming official! It's actually very interesting!!!
I'd like FL-BR-BA-FR. I love fly, but you just have to get it out of the way first. *** next because I'm numb after the fly - and might as well be numb on my worst stroke. Back and free to follow. I agree with the above post about open turns and flip turns being together.
Or, we could just completely remove BR from the IM - swimmer chooses the stroke to replace it.
;)
whether free or back 3rd or 4th - we were not allowed flip turns from free to back
I think they should allow flips in free. I know it's their meet and all, and can make up their own rules, but the rules in IM now dictate that you must finish each stroke legally. The freestyle rules only state that "some part of your body" must touch the wall on the turns and finish.
That might be the fastest, but it would still be my second choice. My first choice would be ***-fly-free-back. The more time underwater in evil the better! And I like having my best/easiest stroke last. Easier to breathe when you need oxygen too.
This is #2 for me, would like *** - fly - back - free. Getting that extra breathing on the back would make for some explosive final lap free. I do agree with *** being first especially since I could mitigate my horribleness with a good start and a good turn while still fresh.
