NCAA Times Post Tech Suit Ban?

Do any of you guys who follow college swimming have a sense yet about the impact of the FINA tech suit ban is having on elite swimming times? I tried looking up results this year and last year--I know the Championships haven't taken place yet for the top tier, but some big meet started Feb 17th (and is presumably over now)--but I just couldn't figure out how to find the data necessary to make a preliminary comparison. Thanks.
  • Chris, I am amazed that you are a college professor and so evidently lacking in a background in the Classics. Plus, you swam for the Greek Olympic team! For this alone, you should be up on your archetypal myths. And of these myths, none is more powerful than the myth of Oedipus Jim, who was conceived 9 years before his mother was born, implanted into her womb by genetic engineers when she reached the age of 14, giving birth to Oedipus Jim, who was 21 or 22 at the time, weighed 164 lb., and had to be delivered, for obvious reasons, by Caesarian. (Another very, very famous Greek poet renowned for his salad making, Chris. You really need to learn this stuff.) The gods took Oedipus away from his mother, and sent her to a fat farm not because of weight so much as the exhausted elastic skin collagen of her abdominal regions. Anyhow, Oedipus Jim and his best friend Narcissus were looking in a pond, and Narcissus saw his own reflection and could just not look away and fell in and drowned. Oedipus Jim realized that there was nothing necessarily wrong with falling in love with yourself, as long as you were careful about it. Thus he took up swimming, determined to avoid the same fate for himself. When he met his mother much later, he didn't realize she was his mother. He thought she was just some hot chick. He invited her to race in swimming and barely beat her in freestyle, his best event. She had this elaborate suit on, so he wanted one, and for a while, the Gods allowed it. With the elaborate suit, he was able to beat the hot chick even worse! Then the God Capricius, seemingly out of the blue, decided to outlaw the suit for men, but not for women, and Leslie started beating Oedipus Jim easily and regularly. Finally, he couldn't stand it and ripped off Leslie's suit, exposing a still hideously stretched out abdomen from having a boychild years earlier that weighed 164 lb. at the time of his birth (and has subsequently ballooned up to 178.) Anyhow, this is when Oedipus Jim had an epinephrine and realized this was not some random fast hot chick after all, but his MOTHER! He instantly decapitated her with her monofin. Then he plucked his eyes out, hoping to block the sight of that exposed abdomen. The gods would not allow it. The same God who was responsible for restoring Prometheus's liver from its nightly disembowelment by harpies brought back Oedipus Jim's eyes in the form of fiber optic athroscopic cameras and turned coverted the rest of his body into a canula, which is now used worldwide by liposcuctionists to remove the abdominal fat from wealthy women everywhere. All Eternity poking and prodding in fat, unable to blink or turn away: the fate of Oedipus Jim, and all because of a swimming suit... This is what passes for a Happy Ending in Greek Classics. Chris, again, I am surprised you didn't know any of this, which is, in point of fact, the real reason for this thread. That's just a lovely Greek myth, son. I guess it was better to lobotomize me rather than forcing me to endure life with a hideously flabby abdomen and FINA mandated sausage legs. I would like to re-vivify the rumor that Big Noodler and the Fortress are one and the same poster now.
  • It surprises me that male swimmers aren't maximizing body coverage, at the texas state championships most boys wore their jammers 6 to 8 inches below their belly buttons. It's really a suit maker design flaw, they should provide more fabric. What are they going to do, pull them up to their ribs? :cane:
  • I too have my best feature prominently displayed as my avatar. Me too. But I think the camera adds 10 lbs.
  • What are they going to do, pull them up to their ribs? :cane: It appears you may have missed this: New Legal Suit Technology for Men!"]New Legal Suit Technology for Men! forums.usms.org/blog.php
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    True. But when posters start discussing their own personal height, weight, swimming goals and training patterns, I take that to mean anything goes. It is a suit thread, so your assumption was correct, anything goes.
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    ME ME ME! I have a good stomach. In fact, I will change my avatar for you Jim. When hubby took this pic of me, he named the file "Ab monster." :bitching: I like your choice of avatar. I too have my best feature prominently displayed as my avatar.
  • I know the conference has shrunk again. I swam for Davidson College. along with College of Charleston, we were the more recent newcomers to the CAA. but after my senior year in 07, the CAA decided the swim conference was too large and kicked us and CofC out. I'm sorry to hear that. I hate all this jockeying between conferences; it is always driven by football and/or basketball -- that is, by money -- and sports like swimming get shafted. Davidson and CoC are both great schools.
  • From a swimming perspective, it wasn't a good move: the CAA was a stronger swimming conference at the time (I don't know about now, I haven't kept up). And there is the distance thing: I don't think UR swims ANY conference "rivals" in meets until they see them at A10s. I know the conference has shrunk again. I swam for Davidson College. along with College of Charleston, we were the more recent newcomers to the CAA. but after my senior year in 07, the CAA decided the swim conference was too large and kicked us and CofC out. off topic from the OP, but i saw the discussion about my old conference and had to chime in.
  • I tried to convince both Speedo and Blueseventy to make a jammer for masters that was cut to allow it to be worn up to the waist. For masters men this would compress a lot of love handle giggling. I knew the look would take some getting used to (boxing trunks? matador pants?) but I do think they'd be efffective. I even pitched a name: "the record waister". No one was impressed. Oh well.
  • I even pitched a name: "the record waister". No one was impressed. Oh well. I think "The Urkel" would have been a more appropriate name. I'm not sure such suits would be faster, but if they were, it would be an interesting test. Would I be willing to endure the undying ridicule that my wife would heap upon me in the quest for greater speed? I'm pretty sure the answer is no...at least the tech suits LOOKED kind of cool, whatever you thought of them.