The following has appeared on a swim forum in the UK
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I’ve been looking at recent masters results. It’s clear that swimmers are producing much slower times without bodysuits. Furthermore, many swimmers are disillusioned and are on the verge of giving up completely. It would be a travesty if these swimmers (they are mostly the over 45s) were lost to the sport altogether.
The majority of masters swimmers prefer to compete in bodysuits. Of that there is no doubt, as witnessed at masters meets up and down the country. It is a disgrace that masters swimmers have been included in the ‘new rules’ concerning elite swimming. I find it quite sad that many swimmers are talking about cutting up their suits, taking out zips and even asking whether they are allowed ‘modesty panels’ in their suits any more.
As always, we are getting no advice, guidance or even leadership from the toothless Masters Committee, whose gingivitic and malocclusive tendencies are attracting Big Nev’s interest, but that’s to be expected.
But it doesn’t have to be like this. Masters swimmers in Italy are not accepting this farce. They are still holding meets where swimmers can choose to wear bodysuits.
There was a recent questionnaire sent out to 4,000 masters swimmers in France. 2,700 swimmers replied, stating they wished to keep their bodysuits for competition.
Masters swimmers in Germany are on the verge of revolution! They accept that masters swimmers are not going to be a threat to any Olympian’s records. Many have now entered masters meets in Italy where they can wear their suits if they want. Also, some meet organisers in Germany are holding similar meets.
Instead of following any directive from our anaemic and tedious Masters Committee, I’d like to see masters swimmers in the UK make a stand against the stupidity surrounding the banning of bodysuits. It will cost me time and money but I’m prepared to organise this.
We need meet organisers in the UK to hold ‘optional suit’ masters meets. Swimmers can choose whether to wear a suit or not. If they are going for a record then the suitless option is a must - but only for a while. I believe that if we boycott masters meets where suits are now allowed, meet organisers, the Masters Committee and the ASA would have to take notice. At the moment they don’t give a toss. At the forefront of the ASA’s mind would be the loss of revenue. Believe me, they see masters swimming as a joke anyway, they would happily let masters swim in bodysuits if it meant they could keep the revenue pouring in.
Getting meet organisers to run ‘bodysuit’ meets would be easy. They would be oversubscribed, every time. Not only from our swimmers but from overseas entries too. I can see one-day meets turning into weekend ones. The organisers could make a lot of money from these well-attended meets. Pulling the plug on masters meets because of low entries would be a thing of the past.
These meets would be the thin end of the wedge in bringing about a change of rules. It‘s the boycotting of ‘non-suit’ meets that would bring a change of rule overnight.
The decathlon would be meaningless because ‘suited’ swims wouldn’t count towards it - but in reality, it is a meaningless competition anyway for all but ten swimmers in the UK who have a chance of winning it.
Don’t underestimate what can be done. Masters swimmers are a powerful group in swimming. The Government is putting very large amounts of money into the greasy hand of the ASA to promote health and fitness for adults. The ASA wouldn’t like the kind of publicity we can give them.
If you feel you can support this initiative I’ll make a start. Masters swimmers in Italy, France and Germany are ready to come on board. Many masters swimmers in America are also willing to make a stand against their governing body. Naturally, support from suit manufacturers is there already. I’ve spoken to four of the biggest.
I’ve been looking at recent masters results. It’s clear that swimmers are producing much slower times without bodysuits. Furthermore, many swimmers are disillusioned and are on the verge of giving up completely. It would be a travesty if these swimmers (they are mostly the over 45s) were lost to the sport altogether.
I feel a migraine coming on when I hear this kind of whining. The Brits and other Europeans need to suck it up.
And maybe swimmers who were "disillusioned and on the verge of giving up" BECAUSE of the prevalence of the suits (their lack of interest in buying one or competing against those who did so) will come back to the fold.
As always, we are getting no advice, guidance or even leadership from the toothless Masters Committee, whose gingivitic and malocclusive tendencies are attracting Big Nev’s interest, but that’s to be expected.
I have to say, this sentence was enough to redeem the entire post.
GSS5T,
I'm surprised that Bill "The Whining Policeman" didn't write you a big Boo Hoo ticket.
I encourage you to fight for what you think is right, however, I disagree with your goal. Go ahead, change the rules. I will abide by the governing bodies.
Skin to win.
There are plenty of posts for/against tech suits. This is no different.
I'm of the opinion that as long as its a level playing field I don't care what suits people wear. But being a purest, the tech suits did get out of control and I'm glad to see swimming revert back. The exorbitant cost of the tech suits is another reason why I'm glad to see them go.....not that $260 for a top tech jammer is cheap.
There are plenty of posts for/against tech suits. This is no different.
I'm of the opinion that as long as its a level playing field I don't care what suits people wear. But being a purest, the tech suits did get out of control and I'm glad to see swimming revert back. The exorbitant cost of the tech suits is another reason why I'm glad to see them go.....not that $260 for a top tech jammer is cheap.
Yeah - and try $365 for the women's version. Seems costly to me for less suit.
Is it a level playing field when I (female) am seeded next to a guy during mixed seed meets? Not even thinking about the tech suit issue here either. . . I personally enjoy swimming with the men at times, but that's not really what I'm asking.
This is interesting.based on the passionate posts here it seems the pro suit/anti suit split is about 50/50 whereas,if this is right it is much more pro suit in Europe.
I think people want to keep their tech suits because they probably dropped $200-$300 in the last year and wanted to get more than 1-2 uses out of them. Give it a year or two more and people will be plenty happy to be spending less.
If you said we could all compete in a floating lounge chair you might attract a few pool loungers to join masters too. That doesn't mean that whats being done is good for the sport or "pure swimming".
I think there is more to the original complaint from GGS5T than the ban on tech suits. Members of USMS are fortunate that we run our sport more than any other governing body. We have to function within the larger aquatic community (FINA) but we (the athletes) are in charge and are responsive to our members. I don't think this is the case in other countries. The situation is more like USMS being a subset of USA-Swimming, with rules made by people who do not participate. Consequently, there is built-up frustration over other issues.
GGS5T, correct me if I am wrong. Also, consider swimming in our yards meets this spring. Tech suits are legal for yards until the end of May.
Try $400 (for a Blue Seventy), but it's not about the cost. I joined Masters swimming in 2003, and tech suits in one form or another have been around the entire time. I will be swimming slower without one, period. What about that should make me "plenty happy"? Anyone who says that it won't bother them is not being honest.
Exactly. I'd be "plenty happy" to shell out the money rather than not have the tech suit. And when someone tells me to "train harder" or "man up," I want to smack them.