USMS final decision on tech suits for masters

This rule is reasonable and fair to those people who already have tech suits. The manufacturers have stopped making them and many sizes are no longer available at any cost. So as the season wears on, the "fairness" applies to fewer and fewer swimmers. Sure, the SCY season is half over, but how many people swim their best times in the beginning of the season?

I'll just aim to be in better shape by next fall to overcome the suit affect. My feelings as well!

True: that's why I think banning them immediately would have been okay, because the most important part of the season (LMSC champs, zones, nationals) is still to come. But whatever. Maybe the grace period is good psychologically, going cold turkey to beat addition can be a tough. :) This was exactly my thinking - how many people swim a tapered SCY meet between June 2009 and March 2010?

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Do you really think it is going to end now Chris so you can watch that basketball game and relax.

does anyone know if this will impact our ability to get our times submitted to the USA-S SWIMS database? for SCY of course. Probably won't count...since usms is allowing tech suits for scy when usa-s doesn't

I don't understand why anyone would train for Atlanta, spend the money to go and then decide not to maximize that training by wearing a post-June legal jammer or brief. Why not take full advantage of the suits while we can? I figure it will be a full 5-8 years before they are back, and, by that point, I'll be even older than hell. Taking some grand jihad stance now against the suits means your are either A) a cheap skate or B) a doofus. And, I consider myself a swimming purist because all sport purists know that sports evolve, not get stuck and mired in the past. Probably B for me. Why does it have to be viewed as a jihad? Do you fear the non-tech suiters and that you might get beat by someone in a brief? Maybe some people just don't care as much as others if their times are slightly slower and their rankings slightly lower. Maybe it has to do with comfort and lack of hassle and enjoying the swim more than the result. Maybe it is a fear of failure and some of us don't use tech suits to give ourselves an excuse for sub-par performances. Well, I guess that just proves B was probably the right selection for me. Have fun getting your last use of your tech suits. It was nice of USMS not to make everyone go "cold turkey". Is there going to be a burning man type ceremony after the last event in Atlanta? I can't believe I was suckered into another tech suit post by Geek..... Tim

This probably isn't what you are implying, but I don't think folks who disagree with the ruling but will still wear tech suits are necessarily hypocritical: 1) folks may want to get their money's worth out of the suits 2) they may want to be able to compare times to previous swims 3) they may want to win I realize I've been a bit outspoken on this topic in terms of the negative impacts of the ruling. Although I've competed in jammers since last May and will do so in Atlanta, I can't blame folks for using a currently legal suit. I've had only limited experience with the suits so I suppose it's easier for me to start over. But with respect to Atlanta- if you're wearing a tech suit, you'd better beat me. :chug: I haven't decided for sure to keep wearing my B70, but these are the reasons that I would do it. I will wear my B70 for the hour swim, because that event is miserable enough I might as well take advantage. I do hate getting beaten by folks I *should* be able to beat but for the fact that they are wearing the suits and I'm not. I experienced that at a few meets last year (even last year I didn't wear my B70 to all meets). I definitely would have preferred the suits to be illegal but I too have to live in the real world...

Do you fear the non-tech suiters and that you might get beat by someone in a brief? I don't give a hoot what the swimmers on either side of me wears, it has no impact on how fast I swim. Jihadists seem to obsess about what everyone else is wearing whereas those of us pristine and perfect tech suit wearers wear them to benefit our own race times and training. No one has ever explained clearly to me why they prefer to swim slower.

I don't give a hoot what the swimmers on either side of me wears, it has no impact on how fast I swim. Jihadists seem to obsess about what everyone else is wearing whereas those of us pristine and perfect tech suit wearers wear them to benefit our own race times and training. No one has ever explained clearly to me why they prefer to swim slower. I don't think of it as swimming "slower". I think of it as swimming at my baseline ability. It's a more accurate reflection of my ability, training and performance. While I also like going "faster", I know in the back of my mind that part of the time is solely attributable to the equipment so I can't feel as good/proud of my accomplishments... If you're swimming solely for your own race times, I don't see why you'd care to go artificially faster because it should all be a relative comparison between performances. As long as you're improving, shouldn't you be happy? I could only see caring about going faster if you care about competing, in which case you wouldn't want anybody to have an unfair artificial advantage over you... Out of curiosity, would you be willing to share why you like going "faster"?