Got a camera in Guam last week to record some fish and stuff. Now that I'm back home I can put it to better use and try to improve my style. Here are several clips, two from yesterday and one from today.
My left hand crosses into my right side and my right hand goes way outside at mid-stroke. Not sure if this is a balance compensation but I havent been able to correct it yet
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To me, my upper body seems OK but my feet are too deep.
Your feet are deep because of your body position. You can fix your feet by kicking harder or fixing your body position. One takes thought, the other energy.
Elongate your neck, it should be flat. This will leave you looking even more down than you are now and feel wrong. Do it anyway, and don't swim in lanes without marking on the bottom. Your glute cheeks should be at the waters surface (I think butt is censored).
Work on maintaining your body alignment during breathing. You body is a twisted mess on that breath in the video. The problem starts with your head, which causes you back to twist and your hips to drop. You start looking down at the bottom of the pool, do not look forward, do not raise your head, do not do anything with your neck muscles. Let the rotation of your body bring your mouth to the surface initially. Once you have mastered keeping your neck straight so your body position does not fall apart through the breath, just use your neck to end the breath sooner, but until then just let body rotation dictate breath duration.
I think you are rotating late, but it might be the breath is the best cycle on the video, but just fixing your breathing should make a big difference in your swimming.
Will work on it some more and see in about 6 weeks for my next meet:)
Greenville? :D See you there! And, please introduce yourself, so I can put the :) with _steve_. :agree: (Although, I now know what you look like underwater...)
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Got hips up several inches by pushing down forward of center buoyancy. From this angle I notice there’s an excessive loss of glide after each propulsion (like brakes).
When I look at this angle:
crooked.wmv - YouTube
I can see why.
I think I do swim differently when filmed, and my neck and upper back has been stiff lately which both may be factors. But this has got to stop - lol!
Hmm, interesting. How can aerobic be improved in weeks?
Not certain about a few weeks but Mr. Thornton once discussed a workout targeting 200 duration's, which as far as I'm concerned is aerobic:
5 sets of 8x50 on 1:00
Set#1 - o=ez, e=200pace+2sec
Set#2 - o=ez, e=200pace+1sec
Set#3 - o=ez, e=200pace
Set#4 - o=ez, e=200pace -1sec
Set#5 - o=ez, e=200pace -2sec
Jimi must have posted that in another thread, but aerobic can be built in weeks if you have the desire, not months. Speed on the other hand, takes a little longer than whatever you think it will take.
Hmm, interesting. How can aerobic be improved in weeks?
Hmm, interesting. How can aerobic be improved in weeks?
Start from an unfit state, train aerobic for 3 weeks consistently, your aerobic capacity will have increased dramatically.
You breath to the right better than to the left. When racing breath just to the right. Interesting, I just started breathing right about a year ago. I learned breathing left to accommodate the left shoulder, but left shoulder these days is happier
When you are not breathing, your head should be still, looking straight down. If you watch your bilateral video you can see that you head is rotating with your body some on non-breath strokes. I noticed that too. I was hurting for air in that shot though, didn’t rest before it. :blush:
as you rotate, try letting your body press your arm deeper instead of wider. This will keep you in a tighter streamline while setting your hand position up for an earlier catch (your shoulder and elbow will rise up as you rotate on the right and initiate your pull, but your hand will be left in a lower position allowing an earlier catch). Right as this happens, where you mention setting up for catch, I believe I may also have a kick, rotation, and catch timing issue.
If your hand is drifting wide to allow for a comfortable catch position because of your shoulder, discard the above advice. No, it’s the other shoulder. Didn’t know this was happening until I saw it, must be counterbalancing something off.
Your turn over is much slower than the initial videos you posted, so I would guess that your stroke has improved but the slow down in turn over was not offset by the increased distance per stroke. I'm not a mathmatician, it would be difficult for me to quantify distance of stroke between the clips of those two days. I can’t even remember the effort level, but I think the recent one was less effort because I was concentrating on high hips and feet while keeping everything straight. In fact, I find this part the most challenging and very easy to loose. It's the old-dog, new trick dilemma of not swimming as a kid I guess.
Work on technique and speed at the same time by doing 12.5yd sprints with lots of rest early in your workout. Have a SCM set with this theme? One without fins, buoys, and paddles I don’t have.
Also related to your turnover, your kick was too big with your foot coming out of the water quiet a bit. Decrease the amplitude of your kick, which should allow for a faster tempo. Work on this faster tempo kick with your faster turnover on the 12.5s. Got it! Time to rock and roll, thanks for the feedback:):)
Fixed most of it. Thanks for the help.
Bilateral:
http://youtu.be/BnQPJ50SJus
BL every 2:
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BR every 2:
http://youtu.be/DpRSlQm55Rc
Do 25M then breath afterwards:
http://youtu.be/wmLk7Mg2Z04
Will work on it some more and see in about 6 weeks for my next meet:)
You breath to the right better than to the left. When racing breath just to the right.
When you are not breathing, your head should be still, looking straight down. If you watch your bilateral video you can see that you head is rotating with your body some on non-breath strokes.
But you are right, that is much better body position. That was quick work.
Notice your right hand drifts outward as you rotate to your left. The entry position looks good, but you don't really want the hand drifting wide, so as you rotate, try letting your body press your arm deeper instead of wider. This will keep you in a tighter streamline while setting your hand position up for an earlier catch (your shoulder and elbow will rise up as you rotate on the right and initiate your pull, but your hand will be left in a lower position allowing an earlier catch).
If your hand is drifting wide to allow for a comfortable catch position because of your shoulder, discard the above advice.
Your turn over is much slower than the initial videos you posted, so I would guess that your stroke has improved but the slow down in turn over was not offset by the increased distance per stroke. Work on technique and speed at the same time by doing 12.5yd sprints with lots of rest early in your workout.
Also related to your turnover, your kick was too big with your foot coming out of the water quiet a bit. Decrease the amplitude of your kick, which should allow for a faster tempo. Work on this faster tempo kick with your faster turnover on the 12.5s.
I'm not a mathmatician, it would be difficult for me to quantify distance of stroke between the clips of those two days.
I meant the video you posted 2.5 years ago when you thrashed through the water. You made up for your lack of technique with strong turnover.
Have a SCM set with this theme? One without fins, buoys, and paddles I don’t have.
8x25 done as 12.5 sprint, 12.5 ez on 1:00
Do that right after warm up. You want your technique to be perfect, but you want to go max effort for those 4-6 strokes. At the end of the set, you should not feel tired like you would if you had sprinted, so you can take less rest (I think Fort does them on 45), but you want to be completely rested for each one. It is also a waste of time to do the set when you are tired already.
As an aside, I find that set frustrating. Since the goal is perfect all out, if you pay attention, you rarely accomplish the goal. Your streamline might be too short causing a deep breakout, or too long resulting in breaking the surface before starting the breakout, or too much rotation, or too little, or not really getting a good hold on the water, or kick amplitude being too big slowing down tempo of kick and turnover and the list goes on.
I got that set (originally) from ehoch, it is not a qbrain original. Fort uses variants frequently in her workouts thread if you want other ideas.