Rowdy's take on tech suits

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    Some people don't want to buy the suits, and that's entirely their choice! Legislating what everyone else in the world is able to purchase, that's incredulous! What is the real reason for the deflation of the largest market swimming has ever produced? How is that good for the sport? Nobody is saying you can't purchase the suits, wear the suits, or even swim in the suits. You just can't race in the suits in certain sanctioned competitions. I know that you know these things, I'm just being a smart ass! :D
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    What is the real reason FINA has banned them.
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    Some people don't want to buy the suits, and that's entirely their choice! Legislating what everyone else in the world is able to purchase, that's incredulous! You're right man, that is incredulous. Peace. :angel:
  • For masters, that hasn't been ruled on. For USA,NCAA,H/S, yes that is the case. Most of what JMiller has been talking about -- TV coverage, politcal agendas, increased money in the sport, whatever (I can't really follow some of it) -- is dealing with FINA's decision to ban the suits for "mainstream" swimming, and (I think) originated with Rowdy's theory that the suits stimulated media interest in the sport. I don't see much media interest in masters swimming. The reason I claimed that most of it is irrelevant is exactly what you said: those decisions made, what should masters do?
  • I would guess that like USMS, other masters governing bodies are waiting on the FINA Masters Tech group to issue a statement on the suits. I'm not completely sure, but I believe USMS is considering whether to be more proactive than that, and advocate a particular position to FINA (much like USS did). Of course, then USMS would have to turn around and decide whether to pass whatever FINA decided to do. Or decide to do something else. I bet it won't happen until next year but that's just a guess.
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    FINA has banned them. For masters, that hasn't been ruled on. For USA,NCAA,H/S, yes that is the case.
  • Does anyone think FINA could still change their mind and allow TECH suits back to be used??? Yes. Will Fina produce rules that everyone can follow to a tee??? Not in my lifetime. Are these discussions really about nothing??? They keep Dolphin2 happy and engaged. I know tech suits are still being sold, some at discount prices, are they being bought by wishful thinkers??? They are legal through the end of the year, which period is evidently much longer than the lifespan of some of the suits.
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    , what should masters do? At this point, I doubt if any of the masters organizations around the world really know what to do about the issue. I would guess that like USMS, other masters governing bodies are waiting on the FINA Masters Tech group to issue a statement on the suits. Once USMS and others have some guidance from the FINA Masters, they will be able to issue a ruling. Is the compromise for Masters to allow bodysuits that are 100% textile, like the FS Pro and Tracer Lights? Would it be better to follow everyone else? My personal opinion, to allow 100% textile bodysuits for masters but that's becasuse I really do hate shaving down. Like you said, not something I am forced to do with masters and won't do even for nationals. But what is "best" will be argued about among "tow the line crowd" vs "forward thinking crowd" vs " the somewhere in between crowd"
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    Does anyone think FINA could still change their mind and allow TECH suits back to be used??? Will Fina produce rules that everyone can follow to a tee??? Are these discussions really about nothing??? I know tech suits are still being sold, some at discount prices, are they being bought by wishful thinkers???
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    This stuff seems very important to all of us, but the majority of people don't really care. Do you think swimming is undervalued because human nature requires a vested interest in order to ensure direct personal involvement? Or, has the ability for business interests in our sport to produce a highly consumable product been historically denied? So they want to increase suit size so the logos will be more visible. Those who want swimming to be like NASCAR should be glad. Do you think the logos have anything to do with the rise of NASCAR in the last 10 years to now become the 4th largest sport consumed in the USA? Or is it the simple 3-tier betting system that engages a wider audience? I don't see much media interest in masters swimming. Do you think intellectual property or the value of an image have anything to do with the category of swimmer you are? Does media evolve and are we all part of that new platform?