Sure, you can say that's EXACTLY what FINA has done. 12 years too late.
No argument on that, but I don't think the fact that the horse has left the barn is a good reason to not push him back in :)
I can say that and I did. :) People obviously disagree on this point. :bitching:
I thought we took ourselves as seriously as USS/FINA/HS Swimming. I think some of us do (like me). Others obviously don't. I don't know how to reconcile everybody's views. I feel bad for USMS leadership. I'm guessing no matter how they come down, about half of the membership (that compete) are going to be unhappy with their decision.
I really do think the compromise is full body textile suits. Maybe this is something we can all get behind?
I agree I think the common ground needs to be the full body textile suits.
As far as taking ourselves as seriously as USS/FINA/HS, I believe we need to go back to the way it was when Spitz sawm and not allow sponsored athletes. So I would consider that I take the purity and tradition of the sport pretty serious.
How is the weather in the Bay Area? I moved from there 2 years ago.
At one point track & field, manufacturers came out with spiked shoes. People with spiked shoes went faster. Athletes could choose to wear them or not.
At one in point downhill skiing, manufacturers came out with full body aerodynamic body suits. Skiers wearing the suits went faster. Athletes could choose to wear them or not.
At one point in competitive swimming, manufacturers came out with swim caps. Long haired people with caps went faster, and pool filters were happier. Athletes could choose to wear them or not.
My 2¢
At one point track & field, manufacturers came out with spiked shoes. People with spiked shoes went faster. Athletes could choose to wear them or not.
At one in point downhill skiing, manufacturers came out with full body aerodynamic body suits. Skiers wearing the suits went faster. Athletes could choose to wear them or not.
At one point in competitive swimming, manufacturers came out with swim caps. Long haired people with caps went faster, and pool filters were happier. Athletes could choose to wear them or not.
My 2¢
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Come on, this is ridiculous. The same swimmer expending the same amount of effort will swim faster in a Jaked versus briefs. Thus the high tech suits do change the sport, just as high tech clubs change the sport of golf.
The USGA has very specific rules on club design. Shouldn't FINA do the same thing for swimsuits? That's exactly what they've done. They've stated how much of the body can be covered by a suit and what material the suits can be made of.
Based on previous posts from you I understand you to be a fellow MSU Grad so I will leave it at that.
The weather in the Bay Area is perfect (as I'm sure you remember)! I can't imagine moving away. Hopefully you can make it back out here some day.
Wished I didn't have to leave but my career took me in a different direction. Some day I hope. Still have plenty of friends living there, though they have started to move out near Pittsburg?
Actually, yes you can. Heck, you can play 18 holes with a single club, I've done it with a 7 iron.
You know what I meant. ;) You can't play golf without clubs. Is that better? Same point, of course!
Sure, you can say that's EXACTLY what FINA has done. 12 years too late. To put in prespective, it would be like the USGA announcing today that clubheads could be no larger than they were back in 1997. How well would THAT go over?
You say you don't want to swim in the "1997 suits" because that's "going backwards".
I say I don't want to allow these "cheater suits" because they allowed people to "go faster" than they could naturally.
You say po-tay-to; I say po-tah-to. It's all a matter of perspective. :D
Again, good luck to our leadership. People just don't see eye to eye on this.
Fine, but you are arguing a lost cause. The suits have been banned already by FINA, USA-S, NCAA and high school. Why shouldn't masters follow? Because of creaky knees, skin cancer, and beer guts? Or because "it's just masters" so it doesn't matter?
In other words, we can't handle "naked" swimming like the rest of the world. How is that not demeaning to us?
Simply because other agencies made a bad decision does not necessitate our following suit (no pun intended). We disagree Chris. That's okay.