Someone here will certainly know the answer to this question. Does USA Swimming follow FINA guidelines on these matters? I'll be competing at a couple of USA Swimming meets this summer and would like to wear my B70 if I can.
Yes
"i'm surprised you folks are suprised by this announcement." says chaos in his endurance square leg.
Glad I got a jump on honing that 6-pack for Nats in Atl 2010. Looks like I'll be ordering another Union Jack brief...oh you lucky gals!
Serious note I feel for those who laid out cash recently. I'm ambivalent to the suits but hope some more financial rebate/trade ins will become apparent.
Another legality question: I thought suits with long arms were not allowed, yet I saw two guys at nationals wearing the full-on legs and arms?
I wonder how much of Speedo's budget is R and D and how much is G the P (grease the palm)?
It is SO obvious what has happened... it's not right. I will not buy any Speedo products from here on out. Too bad b/c I've bought all 3 of my kids a lot of Speedo suits, and they will be buying a lot more suits than me in the future. I will make sure they don't spend their money on Speedo products.
I don't have the mentality that "I'll show them!" but more of "OK, I see how you operate. And I don't like it."
...now if i can squeeze my fat rer into the thing will give it a test tomorrow and see if I can feel how much of a difference not trapping air makes.
For the love of God, and all things good and decent, please do not post pictures of this *** squeezing.
2) I was so sick of hearing people, even on my own team, wearing the
B70 that said, "The suit didn't help that much. I trained hard."
OK, well now that the B70 is gone let's see how well they do....
Yeah, that Chris Stevenson will just have to shut up ... :bolt: I'm sure his swimming will absolutely hit the skids without his B70 ...
I agree about B70 being an excellent product with a lot of brand loyalty. I'll definitely try the next iteration. But I need a new tech suit now! My Pro is rather old at this point. Any bets that Pro prices will now mysteriously increase?
I agree about B70 being an excellent product with a lot of brand loyalty. I'll definitely try the next iteration.
Me too, but in the meantime, I'm thinking Tracer.
Anyone have any experiences they can share?
Dear USMS friends,
I’ve already had a slew of calls and emails from swimmers wanting to know what our response is to the overnight release of the FINA approved suits list.
Many of you will know that we submitted 11 models of suits for approval, including tights and jammers. As a company and personally we were very comfortable with the criteria for testing that FINA had outlined, our suits passed well under the threshold for buoyancy and thickness proposed by them.
We have had confirmation that our suits passed the independent laboratory testing for both these tests.
However at this time, our suits are not listed on FINA’s site as an approved model. Even the models we submitted and received approval for in late 2007. It is suffice to say I am stunned at this omission. Ofiicially we are classified as one of the suits that and I quote”May cause significant air trapping when worn by the swimmers”.
However, there are several other brands, a from a similar background as us, that have made suits that have used exactly the same fabric, and similar construction that have passed without a problem.
We are confused!!!! and currently seeking clarification from FINA as to this and the steps to understand why suits of the same materials, construction and similar design are deemed legal but not ours...did we do something to offend?
We understand that right now we have 30 days to make modifications in order to allow the suit to no longer trap air, although how a suit does this, in what shape, size, or method it is required is not clear. Trapping air is of course not a measurable value, and the subjective nature of this decision leaves conspiracy theories flying into my inbox.
Initially the Dubai charter and resubmission of these suits was in order to gain acceptance for Rome World championships. My understanding is that previously approved suits remain legal for all competitions otherwise...I guess for masters it is the decision of the boards and other governing bodies.
Right now my friends we are working through the best solution to the short term situation once we understand the decision and process from FINA, and will in the next few days be working on a statement that will encompass all the issues raised in this forum. We care about swimmers, we care about our company and we care about fair play for all brands in this process.
Thanks to you all
Deano
We are confused!!!! and currently seeking clarification from FINA as to this and the steps to understand why suits of the same materials, construction and similar design are deemed legal but not ours...did we do something to offend?
We understand that right now we have 30 days to make modifications in order to allow the suit to no longer trap air, although how a suit does this, in what shape, size, or method it is required is not clear. Trapping air is of course not a measurable value, and the subjective nature of this decision leaves conspiracy theories flying into my inbox.
Deano
Dean,
My biased opinion is that Speedo is jealous of the popularity of B70. Speedo made a new state of the art suit, which was suppose to be the greatest suit out there. Then, an upstart company came into the pool world and proceeded to "smash them like guitars"
Just my thought.
Two "thoughts":
2) I was so sick of hearing people, even on my own team, wearing the
B70 that said, "The suit didn't help that much. I trained hard."
OK, well now that the B70 is gone let's see how well they do....
* personal disclaimer: I KNOW the suit made a difference in my swimming!
LOL! True dat! I know I told people that B70 did my swimming for me.
