Phelps ready to try out new freestyle technique

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As quoted in the AP article: "You'll all have to see. I'm not saying anything until we unveil it," Phelps said with a grin when asked how he's tweaked the stroke. "It's a significant change. You'll be able to tell exactly what I did as soon as I take my first stroke." He's on tap to swim the 100- and 200-meter free and the 100 butterfly at the Charlotte UltraSwim in NC. Should be interesting to see.
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    I had the pleasure of meeting him at the NC state meet in Raleigh. Very fast and super nice guy. aw shucks, wookie. great to meet you as well.
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    Fred Bousquet went a :46.63 relay split in the 400 Free Relay going in the 3rd position at the 2008 Olympic Games. In all the excitement of the relay I did not catch what type of suit he was wearing but I don't think he was wearing a Jaked suit. He did not swim the 100 Free as an individual event because he did not qualify for the top 2 spots on the French team and those went to gold medalist Alain Bernard and Fabien Gilot so we don't know what he could have done in the individual event at the Olympic games but if his relay split is any indication, this is proof that Craig Lord's statement of "no way" does not hold up to this fact of fast swimming in the relay without the Jaked suit. I agree that the "no way" statement is wrong. But Bousquet has a history of being an incredible relay swimmer. I think he went a 47.00 in 2005 at Worlds, but then didn't final in the individual. What might be accurate is to say that Bousquet is finally showing the potential he exhibited in some relay swims.
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    this is a lie...geekface kills me on a regular basis. in fact, every time we do something free style which is longer than a 50. Then just have him flip over on his back...
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    Experiments in stroke have gone on for a long time. I have used the strait arm recovery when sprinting. We even tried slamming the hand into the water which lifted the body higher in the water. I also had a very furious deep kick when swimming in 3 feet of water my toes almost touched the bottom of the pool and the heals exited the water. Then I again changed to not slamming the hand into the water re Newton's third law. If you notice my avatar you will see my stroke as almost windmill style with a large body roll. no catchup there. The hand during the catch phase was well into the catch as the arm was exiting the from the finish. That picture was taken in 1956 at the Olympics but during a training session and pic opportunity. After seeing the Japanese swimmers in the 56 Olympics my stroke changed quite a bit to an extending stroke. which delayed the start of the catch. When I started swimming distance, the higher elbow and a much more increased roll and of course a different kick, not so agressive.
  • straight arm free allows swimmers to turn over faster by: fully extending out front and instantly catching Tip 257 Propellers Don't Pause explains it OK. I saw the new technique. Why will straight arms be better for going faster? I was always told to bend them to get the forward motion & momentum. What's up ??
  • I saw someone mention "Hillmen Chart " in an earlier post. Does anyone know what that is? Would love an explaination
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    Are you sure about that split at 2005 Worlds in Montreal? Or maybe it was another meet? I know that he had the fastest split in history for a while, and I am almost certain it was a 47.0 I'll dig it up... Wowsers it was in 2003: www.omegatiming.com/.../F73_ResByHeat_108_Final_Men_4x100_Free.pdf In fairness he did finish 6th in the race (I said he didn't final)
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    I know that he had the fastest split in history for a while, and I am almost certain it was a 47.0 I'll dig it up... Wowsers it was in 2003: www.omegatiming.com/.../F73_ResByHeat_108_Final_Men_4x100_Free.pdf In fairness he did finish 6th in the race (I said he didn't final) I remember that race. I recorded it (VHS!) and watched it several times. Since then, every amazing thing that Bousquet has done just seems like confirmation of the insane speed he showed in that race.
  • Take the suit away and he's still fast as crap, maybe just as fast, maybe faster, maybe slower. Chalking it up to the suit is the coward's way out.
  • It did look uncomfortable. A mix of both styles? Great quality video by the way. Bousquet meant business. 48.2 is flying! We are going to see a horde of people playing with this staright arm recovery...as Jonty Skinner recently pointed out (and Bowman concurs in todays USA Today) the new suit technology allows swimmers the buoyancy to maintain this far more fatiguing/powerful technique. I've been playing with it for 6 months but have yet to give it a shot in a meet... Here was one of the first breakthrough swims with it: YouTube - Stefan Nystrand Worldrecord 100 m freestyle