Men's NCAAs 2009

I remember seeing them at the Olympics last summer. Not sure if it was the same suit as Auburn wore at NCAAs or if this is a new version. Here's a picture of Federica Pellegrini from Beijing: www.exposay.com/.../ Well, according to Lord's article the Jaked is better than the LZR and is (surprise!) an abomination. Amazing how Speedo seems so lilly pure and everything else is dirty. If these suits are so much better than the LZR, why didn't the Italian team dominate the Olympics? After all, it's the suit not the swimmer, right?

Kirk, Keep digging. You'll need to do a little more checking than the web site. The suits were not available to everyone prior to the meet. Is this the reason Auburn won..... of course not. Is it one more tactic to push the envelope? Tell me your thoughts on the rest of my comments. Do care if kids aren't on campus the whole year and not sitting in classes as the rest of the domestic athletes are required ..... and aren't even swimming in some of the dual meets in the Fall and then show up for the last months of the season and go to "The Show" as if they were a "team". You don't think this "World Cup" rule gets a bit ridiculous? Wen does the NCAA become the ICAA?

.... So I think Eddie is successful recruiting Americans because it is relatively easy for him to do so. We will have to agree to disagree on this statement. I believe he has been coaching for almost 4 decades. There are plenty of reasons kids want to go swim him other than slightly lower Texas in state tuition costs.

We will have to agree to disagree on this statement. I believe he has been coaching for almost 4 decades. There are plenty of reasons kids want to go swim him other than slightly lower Texas in state tuition costs. I don't mean to downplay Eddie himself. His record, his 2-time Olympic coach status, etc. are tremendous advantages. In fact that plays very well with Texas' other advantages. But with a roster size of almost 40 today - most of his swimmers have no scholarship money at all. I'm sure the parents of many of his swimmers appreciate the lower costs. Their choice could be 1/4 or 1/2 scholarship somewhere else, or zero scholarship swimming for Eddie. It is relatively easy to choose the latter.

So if you think it's the same arguement as the LZR from the preceding year and the NCAA banne0d the LZR due to access in 2008, why don't you blame FINA and not the NCAA this year for allowing the suit that all teams don't have access? Mr Neg, I don't really understand this post. I think I said that if there is blame, then it rests with FINA. Their own rules state that everyone should have access. (If these suits have been around since the Olympics, why wouldn't that be true?) I don't know enough backstory on this to have a strong opinion. I'm certainly not going to form one based on one article from such an obviously biased source (I'm talking about Craig Lord, btw, before you get your panties in a wad). Are you trying to say that a certain un-named, apparently despicable team used these suits in the NCAAs, that they conferred an unfair advantage, and that no one else could get the suits? Please elaborate.

Does an on line course make you a student?

Well, according to Lord's article the Jaked is better than the LZR and is (surprise!) an abomination. Amazing how Speedo seems so lilly pure and everything else is dirty. If these suits are so much better than the LZR, why didn't the Italian team dominate the Olympics? After all, it's the suit not the swimmer, right? So if you think it's the same arguement as the LZR from the preceding year and the NCAA banned the LZR due to access in 2008, why don't you blame the NCAA and not FINA this year for allowing the suit that all teams don't have access?

Mr Neg, I don't really understand this post. I think I said that if there is blame, then it rests with FINA. Their own rules state that everyone should have access. (If these suits have been around since the Olympics, why wouldn't that be true?) I don't know enough backstory on this to have a strong opinion. I'm certainly not going to form one based on one article from such an obviously biased source (I'm talking about Craig Lord, btw, before you get your panties in a wad). Are you trying to say that a certain un-named, apparently despicable team used these suits in the NCAAs, that they conferred an unfair advantage, and that no one else could get the suits? Please elaborate. I think he is saying that, not only does Aubrun cheat with foreign swimmers, they use cheat suits too (made by an Italian company no less). Yawn....

Typo in my response Chris. Try this. I may make more sense. My question is about the NCAAs response to the LZR the preceding year. If the suit presents a similar question of access for individuals, why is the newest suit technology this year not under the same set of scrutiny as last year? Doesn't matter if its a winning team or not..... access is access in the end. I don't know enough to have an opinion, just questions. If the suits were available at -- and presumably approved for -- the Olympics, are they really "new?" Why would only Auburn (or whomever) have access to them? What evidence is there that this suit is really faster than the LZR? (I don't trust Lord's article at all on this score, he seems to take issue with the non-Speedo suits.) Anyway, so what if it is? The issue is access, not effectiveness. I'm only guessing, but since the NCAA allowed the LZRs, I can only assume that they would just allow all suits that have been approved by FINA. I would hope that includes the issue of access since that's the FINA rule. Otherwise the NCAA would have to start up their own approval process, which is probably needlessly redundant and confusing.

So if you think it's the same arguement as the LZR from the preceding year and the NCAA banned the LZR due to access in 2008, why don't you blame the NCAA and not FINA this year for allowing the suit that all teams don't have access? Typo in my response Chris. Try this. I may make more sense. My question is about the NCAAs response to the LZR the preceding year. If the suit presents a similar question of access for individuals, why is the newest suit technology this year not under the same set of scrutiny as last year? Doesn't matter if its a winning team or not..... access is access in the end.