I am just back from the SPMA meet where all the top finisher were wearing the latest generation tech suits,mostly B-70s(or were named Jeff Commings.)I have here to for been in favor of the suits,but now I am not so sure.First,they eliminate the old bench marks.I went my fastest 100m BR in 5 yr in my LZR,but it was only .3 sec faster than I did untapered 5 wk earlier in my first swim in the LZR.So was my swim good or not,I'm not sure.Also,instead of focusing on technique or pace I found myself ruminating over aspects of the suits,how many more swims did the suit have,is it the right size,was the reason I didn't get better results from my B-70 because it was too big?etc.The B-70 has somewhat mitigated the "too expensive,not durable" problem,but for how long.
Lets say a company comes up with a suit that is much faster,say 4 sec/100.Further that it is very expensive(say $1000) lasts 4 swims and is very hard to make so that quantities are always limited and the fastest way to get one is to bid up to $3000 on ebay. Now lets say your nemesis has one,or that getting one is your best chance to get TT or AA or a ZR or WR,or that your child is close to making JO cuts,or finally beating his/her nemesis etc. Is it worth it and where does it stop?
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Do you actually swim and compete? If so, you know that a fast suit does not make a slow swimmer fast. Nor does it supplant training. I have never lost to a slower swimmer in a fast suit, nor have I beat a better swimmer when I was wearing one.
Briefs are from a bygone era, move on, get over it, we aren't going back and no amount of your whining will change that.
I haven't competed since college and high school many years ago. I started swimming again a couple months ago, but tore a ligament in my wrist and haven't been back and won't be until many months after I have surgery in April.
A fast suit can make a slow swimmer fast. A fast suit can make a fast swimmer faster. If they didn't swimmers would not wear them.
Second, a tech suit never has nor ever will make a slow swimmer fast.
Never has a slow swimmer been stuck swimming a 50.00 second 100 yard free and put on a tech suit enabling them to swim faster with no aditional training?
Coaches recommend these suits and swimmers wear them because they make swimmers faster. Not the other way around.
I'm sorry, stillwater, what kind of bike do you own again? Third time.
And, if you knew at thing about Phelps' race with the goggle issue, that was the one individual race where he didn't achieve his pre-planned time goal and he specifically stated it was due to goggle failure. Do your homework.
I shall have patience. Why, pray tell, do you care about my steed?
I preach to "you swimmers" so that you can see the light. I once was blind.
Not worth it, go back to your bike forum and discuss a few grams of weight savings for the newest carbon pedals.
you really should go away.
Whaaaa, is that a whine? Or as my five year old says, "You go away. I was here first."
it's obvious why you don't want the goggle argument - it nullifies your entire premise.
Goggle failure didn't hamper Mr. Phelp's butterfly swim in the big show. A rip in the fancy pants tech suit might have.
Train harder, get stronger, swim better
Shoot, now you're giving great tips about athleticism and dedication to the craft. But that's hard
How about just spending money to be faster?
then buy the suit.
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Sorry to chime in a bit late here...but what is this discussion about?
i thought the discussion was finally taking a turn for the better and would soon lead to agreement of the beauty and aesthetics of hand cut lug work.
(my 7 steeds are steel)
(my 7 steeds are steel)
I just ordered my first steel mountain bike. It should be here by the end of the month!!!:):):)
I say we ban shaving too, that way, the least hairy, fast swimmers will win! Oh wait, I'm not fast. Never mind!:blah::blah::blah:
I'm sorry, stillwater
Apology accepted.
Why do you care about the bike I own?
And, if you knew at thing about Phelps' race with the goggle issue, that was the one individual race where he didn't achieve his pre-planned time goal and he specifically stated it was due to goggle failure
I know a couple of things about his race. He won a gold medal, with goggle faliure. If his fancy pants suit had torn I doubt he would have won.
I'll try. But it's hard. Can I just buy it?
