Foreigh Athletes in the NCAA

Former Member
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Looks like the number of foreign athletes taking scholarship money away from home grown kids has surged in recent years. 2/3rds are in Division I schools. I wouldn't dream of accusing lazy coaches who don't recruit well of using "hired guns" from other countries to win championships. I'm sure they are only accepting foreign athletes for the altruistic good of helping to diversify the student body..... :-) Influx of foreigners presents new challenges for NCAA www.usatoday.com/.../2008-10-01-foreign-influx_N.htm
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    oh god, here we go. I personally don't have a problem with it. The best collage age swimmers our country dont even swim in college, Micheal Phelps and katie hoff.
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Some of my closet friends on the swim team and from other sports were foreign athletes over here on scholarship. If it hadn't been for the money, then they wouldn't have been able to be over here and I wouldn't have a number of good people that I can still call FRIENDS to this day. Let's drop this topic and move on.
  • Lets use the Euro professional sports model....maximum of two foreign swimmers per team and they or their federation pay for the costs leaving what little scholorship dollars do exist to develop our own talent. And for the record....only a little over 2% of the general student body (according to the article) is foriegn born (not counting illegal aliens of course) so the diversity argument doesn't fly.
  • Former Member
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    For the love of god, do we really have to start the sniffling about this all over again? We are, after all, a nation of whiners. Or so I've been told.
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Then does there exist a percentage or threshold of foreign competitors occupying NCAA scholarships that would ever be excessive?
  • Former Member
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    Some would argue they are recruiting better by looking outside the borders of the U.S. for athletes. Anyone in college on an athletic scholarship is a hired gun. Your Sarah Palin grasp of the concept demonstrates your experience with the issue. If you'd like me to translate..... Hired guns are serious point scores at NCAAs.
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Whew! I'm glad to see that men's synchronized swimming isn't overrun with foreign athletes. The real issue for me is not foreign vs. American. It is 9.9 scholarships for men's Div 1 swimming. And 85 for football.
  • Former Member
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    I agree. That sounds like good recruiting to me. What's your point again? It's the NCAA not the ICAA.
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    Whew! I'm glad to see that men's synchronized swimming isn't overrun with foreign athletes. The real issue for me is not foreign vs. American. It is 9.9 scholarships for men's Div 1 swimming. And 85 for football. Agreed.... that's what makes every last ounce of money more valuable and now even more difficult to obtain for US kids.
  • Former Member
    Former Member
    There are billions of unclaimed scholarships dollars every year so stop pulling facts out of your FastSkin. No one is deprived. Seriously, can you please stop making up stats and crying about a non-issue? What is it gonna take for this to happen? I will buy you all the beer you want. I swam with 7 or 8 D-1 guys today and a D-II guy who swam against a current NCAA hotshot from a foreign country. You know what he said about him? - "he is awesome." Maybe when he's 57 like you he will cry rivers. Billions of dollars of unclaimed scholarships? If each scholarship were worth $30,000 then that would mean at least 33,333 scholarships are unclaimed. Since this is a swimming forum I assume Goodsmith is really talking about NCAA swimming, both Div 1 and Div 2. No scholarships in Div 3. I bet there are zero unallocated men's swimming scholarships in Div 1.