100m butterfly - Cavic beats Phelps?

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VIDEO: Men's 100m Butterfly - Heat 9 1 Milorad CAVIC SRB 50.76 OR 2 Michael PHELPS USA 50.87 3 Andrii SERDINOV 7 UKR 51.10 . . .
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    As much as I like Cavic he seems to have gotten a big mouth from hanging around Gary Hall Jr. too much. He needs to STFU and concentrate on swimming fast. I want Phelps to win, of course, and believe that he will, but I see zero wrong with what Cavic is doing. He wants to win, why not say so? Why else would he be there? In the same interview he also acknowledged that it would be foolish to ever discount Phelps. I don't think it's disrespectful or trash talk to say he wants to be the guy who wins this race and is willing to dash this whole 8-golds thing to do so. It's different from Bernard, who allegedly said "we will win." Why is Cavic different from Lochte, who said before the Games something like, "I want him to do well, but if Michael doesn't get 8 golds that means I've done something right"
  • Phelps will smash the WR completely uncontested.
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    I'm with everyone else thinking that Phelps has gotten faster in the 100's but after looking at a bunch of stats, I don't know now. Everyone says that since phelps dropped from 47.92 to a 47.51, he should drop at least that much in the 100 fly, right? The 47.92 was from trials in a 100 free prelim. Phelps did not compete in the seim-final or final. I'm pretty sure that if he did swim in the final that he would have droped more time. Plus when you are swimming next to eamon sullivan and leaveux, in a relay that you have to win, it makes it a little easier to go fast. So this 100 free drop applied to what his 100 fly time is going to be is less reliable than what it seems to be. Another thing that people are saying is that phelps is just saving up for the big one. In the semifinals at trails, phelps went a 51.10 after the 200 IM finals that same night. The next day he came back "rested" and went a 50.89. Thats only a .21 drop. And he was definatly going balls out in that race. If history repeats its self, he goes a 50.76, the same time that Cavic has gone this week, OMG! This is going to be one hell of a race. But who knows these are just stats, you can throw this out the window as soon as they step up on the block. I'm not making any claims here but looking at this, I have no idea whats going to happen. O, and another thing, Phelps did not go a top time when he beat Ian Crocker in Athens.
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    I'm with everyone else thinking that Phelps has gotten faster in the 100's but after looking at a bunch of stats, I don't know now. Everyone says that since phelps dropped from 47.92 to a 47.51, he should drop at least that much in the 100 fly, right? The 47.92 was from trials in a 100 free prelim. Phelps did not compete in the seim-final or final. I'm pretty sure that if he did swim in the final that he would have droped more time. Plus when you are swimming next to eamon sullivan and leaveux, in a relay that you have to win, it makes it a little easier to go fast. So this 100 free drop applied to what his 100 fly time is going to be is less reliable than what it seems to be. Another thing that people are saying is that phelps is just saving up for the big one. In the semifinals at trails, phelps went a 51.10 after the 200 IM finals that same night. The next day he came back "rested" and went a 50.89. Thats only a .21 drop. And he was definatly going balls out in that race. If history repeats its self, he goes a 50.76, the same time that Cavic has gone this week, OMG! This is going to be one hell of a race. But who knows these are just stats, you can throw this out the window as soon as they step up on the block. I'm not making any claims here but looking at this, I have no idea whats going to happen. O, and another thing, Phelps did not go a top time when he beat Ian Crocker in Athens. Yeah.....but......this is the Olympics not trials. Phelps didn't have to win trials. No one thought Lezak could go 46.06 but he did because of extreme conditions. And yes it is the Olympics for Cavic too - but he's not Phelps! My guess is he will overswim it. He'll swim the first 50 in mortal fear that Phelps will reel him in. And he will. The self-described godfather of swimming can't call in any favors to change the outcome.
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    Agree with Ande, Cavic's best time may have been his first one. He def gave 100% on both swims and was fully rested. Phelps has a goal, and if he reaches it it will send shock waves through the building.
  • I have a prediction: this race will be awesome. dude, your crystal ball was right on!
  • Phelps will smash the WR completely uncontested. and your crystal ball was a bit cloudy :D
  • Well I thought he touched first too. Maybe the pads don't register until after a certain amount of pressure? I can't see this getting turned over though, and it would be ugly if they did. How about a redo? I could watch that one again! pads don't lie. of course there has to be a certain amount of pressure, otherwise the wave in front of the swimmer would stop the clock. with it that close, I don't see how anyone is going to be able to determine who touched first without relying on the pads. And if they do overturn it, what type of precedent does that set. All close races subject to manual review and overturning? At that point, do we go back to hand held stop watches and the ref's eyeballs?
  • Hmmm, they just said that Serbia has filed a protest... (shakes head) There are sore losers, and there are sore losers.