Hardy linked to supplement company

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See the full story. The company - Advocare - is also endorsed by Larsen Jensen. Their products have been banned by the NCAA. This is starting to smell real bad.....
  • In the other thread I mentioned that I wondered what her excuse would be. Well, now we know. Typical. Cheaters never have any culpability.
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    You can't trust what's in supplements. The FDA just seized a lot of dietary supplements yesterday which contained a drug chemically close to the active ingredient in Viagra. The company, incidentally, was given an opportunity to pull the lots voluntarily but refused. www.fda.gov/.../NEW01864.html
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    This quote from the article is interesting: The commonly held belief that the government approves these over-the-counter dietary supplements is incorrect. There is evidence that some products may not contain the ingredients listed on the label in the stated amount, may not contain the ingredients listed at all, or may be contaminated or adulterated with other prohibited substances not listed on the label. So if you use any of these supplements the burden is on you to make sure they aren't contaminated. Nobody else is checking for you. That would be a shame to endorse the product only to find out the company effectively screwed you. Skip The challenge I have with all of this is that if this supplement was laced with something which seems to be the defense. If she was the only person taking this stuff then she is the only one to test positive. If she isn't (which I am sure many other people have taken this stuff and not just Olympians), I have to believe there would be many more positive tests for clenbuterol. No way this company could stay in business selling their product to one person. According to the test results and what seems to be the defense, that is what we should conclude.
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    Geek is correct..... (and I am not partial to agreeing with him). From all accounts and opinions I have heard, Advocare has decent products. Her endorsement may hurt the company from a marketing perspective short term, but there is no link to her positive testing and the use of them.
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    Let's take a broader look at the people that make up her "team". How is it, fellow forum posters, that one coach has at least 3 swimmers testing positive due to supplements or other? What's the liklihood of this? Does club wolverine, UT/Reese, Athens bulldogs and all those other well known names - do their coaches have this many swimmers testing positive? I don't think so! Who are the other two Trojan swimmers testing positive?
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    Interesting....Larsen Jensen is no longer listed as an Endorser on their website under Watersports. Things that make you go...Hmmmmmm.
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    Spoke a little too soon. I see he's still included on the pdf.
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    Read the article; again, if factually correct, this coach is associated with 2 other swimmers with incidents in prior years back to 2002. I see that now. Whether or not there is a pattern worthy of concern here or not..well, seems unlikely but one never knows.
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    Geek is correct..... (and I am not partial to agreeing with him). From all accounts and opinions I have heard, Advocare has decent products. Her endorsement may hurt the company from a marketing perspective short term, but there is no link to her positive testing and the use of them. If Advocare has good products - why has the NCAA banned them as the article says?
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    In the other thread I mentioned that I wondered what her excuse would be. Well, now we know. Typical. Cheaters never have any culpability. Way of life today in society, it's always someone else's fault, sue them, they gotta pay! Damn, I should become sociology professor like I was told to...