From what i have heard, from several credible sources, someone on the us women's team tested positive. As of now only the persons family, roommate, and usa swimming know, but im sure it will begin to leak out. Nothing matters though until we get results of the B test.. which could be a few days or even weeks. Not sure when the test was taken, but probably trials. I will try to post more information when I get it, but if anyone could confirm or post what they know, im sure it would be appreciated
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Tragedy for USA Swimming. Horrible distraction for the ladies traveling abroad. Media will have a picnic with this one.
IF she is found guilty:
Drag her ass and whomever helped her in this crime off to jail in chains and publish the photo's in every paper and at every swim club in the country. Shame on her and anyone who defends this BS....she's 21, she's an adult and she wanted to win at all costs. She basically said screw you to all of her teammates and everyone in sport who plays by the rules...there goes any chance the 400 medley relay had against the Aussies.
Two thumbs up to this.
Also - her LIFE is not ruined. Her swimming career is ruined. She can go back to school, get a degree, and continue with a more normal adult life. She just won't be a 2008 Olympic swimmer nor medalist.
99% of the possible employers she might interview with a few years from now won't know who she is. No one in a non-athletic industry will ask "did you ever test positive for a performance enhancing drug."
99% of the possible employers she might interview with a few years from now won't know who she is. No one in a non-athletic industry will ask "did you ever test positive for a performance enhancing drug."
Tomorrow morning they'll know her name. By the end of the games and the constant "XXX who replaced the banned Jessica Hardy" comments every time they swim they'll know. Everyone knows who Ben Johnson, and Marion Jones are...if the person in the interview doesn't someone will along the chain. That's by the by anyhow...her loss. It's just a tragedy.
Like FQ said There's also likely to be a background check, where this will likely pop up. If nobodys lose jobs because of photos on my space you can bet your bikini she'll be fighting this every step.
From swimnews.com:
Jessica Hardy Tests Positive-But Who Leaked The Story?
www.swimnews.com/.../displayStory.jhtml
Oh Dara leaked it for sure...bit of a smokescreen and diversion...:rolleyes:
If she took Clen, she may have taken it in conjunction with something else.
Illicit Uses:
Clenbuterol is abused for its ability to alter body composition by reducing body fat and increasing skeletal muscle mass. It is typically abused by athletes and bodybuilders at a dose of 60-120 m g per day. It is often used in combination with other performance enhancing drugs, such as anabolic steroids and growth hormone.
The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent temmates, coaching staff for the "O" team and family who didn't know she was a cheater.
Not to mention Tara Kirk, and the rest of the people who lost to her if she cheated.
As I said on the Jaben thread and Fort alluded to, she needs to admit she cheated if she did. Come clean, say you did it and move on. It will bring credibility to the system of testing and hopefully remove the cloud somewhat over USA Swimming. If she comes clean and says she did it on her own, better for everyone.
If she tries the Landis, Jones, Clemens defense there will be a much darker cloud of suspicion over the US Olympic team in Beijing that will be such a distraction as the press will continue to ask about it.
I should have suspected something when she came out of nowhere as a freestyle sprinter.These swimmers have it drummed into their heads about PEDs and testing.They should know not to take anything without an OK.Also this is not something found in legitament supplements to my knowledge.She cheated!
My question is how many people get away with it? The risks are obvious as we all know. If the tests are not effective (i.e. only very few get caught due to the incompetency of testing) then the risk is not nearly as great. I hate being so skeptical but how can you blame me? Why would anyone in their right mind cheat if the chance of getting caught was great? If the chance is minimized by masking agents, cycling, etc. then the risk is much lower.
Clenbuterol, from what I read, can't be legally prescribed in the US?
From the DEA's web site:
www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/.../clenbuterol.htm
Introduction:
Clenbuterol is a potent, long-lasting bronchodilator that is prescribed for human use outside of the U.S. It is abused generally by bodybuilders and athletes for its ability to increase lean muscle mass and reduce body fat (i.e., repartitioning effects). However, clenbuterol is also associated with significant adverse cardiovascular and neurological effects.
Licit Uses:
In the U.S., clenbuterol is not approved for human use; the only approved use is for horses. In 1998, the FDA approved the clenbuterol-based Ventipulmin Syrup, manufactured by Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica, Inc., as a prescription-only drug for the treatment of airway obstruction in horses (0.8-3.2 m g/kg twice daily). This product is not intended for human use or for use in food-producing animals.
Outside the U.S., clenbuterol is available by prescription for the treatment of bronchial asthma in humans. It is available in tablets (0.01 or 0.02 mg per tablet) and liquid preparations. The recommended dosage is 0.02-0.03 mg twice daily.
Chemistry and Pharmacology:
Clenbuterol is a beta2-adrenergic agonist. Stimulation of the beta2-adrenergic receptors on bronchial smooth muscle produces bronchodilation. However, clenbuterol also stimulates beta2-adrenergic receptors in other tissues, as well as beta1-adrenergic receptors, producing adverse cardiovascular and neurological effects, such as heart palpitations, muscle tremors, and nervousness. Activation of beta-adrenergic receptors also accounts for clenbuterol’s ability to increase lean muscle mass and reduce body fat, although the downstream mechanisms by which it does so have yet to be clearly defined.
After ingestion, clenbuterol is readily absorbed (70-80%) and remains in the body for awhile (25-39 hours). As a result of its long half life, the adverse effects of clenbuterol are often prolonged.
Illicit Uses:
Clenbuterol is abused for its ability to alter body composition by reducing body fat and increasing skeletal muscle mass. It is typically abused by athletes and bodybuilders at a dose of 60-120 m g per day. It is often used in combination with other performance enhancing drugs, such as anabolic steroids and growth hormone.
It is also illicitly administered to livestock for its repartitioning effects. This has resulted in several outbreaks of acute illness in Spain, France, Italy, China, and Portugal 0.5-3 hours after individuals ingested liver and meat containing clenbuterol residues. The symptoms, which included increased heart rate, nervousness, headache, muscular tremor, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, fever, and chills, typically resolved within 2 to 6 days. Consequently, the U.S. and Europe actively monitor urine and tissue samples from livestock for the presence of clenbuterol.
There have also been reports of clenbuterol-tainted heroin and cocaine. Although no deaths were attributed to the clenbuterol exposures, the individuals were hospitalized for up to several days due to clenbuterol intoxication.
User Population:
Clenbuterol is typically abused by athletes. It is thought to be more popular among female athletes as the repartitioning effects are not associated with the typical androgenic side effects (i.e., facial hair, deepening of the voice, and thickening of the skin) of anabolic steroids. Professional athletes in several different sports have recently tested positive for clenbuterol. Clenbuterol is also marketed and abused for weight-loss purposes.
Illicit Distribution:
Clenbuterol is readily available on the Internet as tablets, syrup, and an injectable formulation. The drug is purportedly obtained by illegal importation from other countries where it is approved for human use.
According to the System to Retrieve Information on Drug Evidence (STRIDE) data, since 2000 DEA forensic laboratories analyzed 109 clenbuterol drug items from 77 different law enforcement cases. The analyzed drug exhibits comprised of 39,643 tablets, 17,704.11 grams of powder and 1,828.7 ml liquid. Since 2000, according to National Forensic Laboratory Information System (NFLIS), state and local forensic laboratories analyzed 68 clebuterol drug items from 53 different law enforcement cases. These relatively small numbers are likely a reflection of the non-controlled status of clenbuterol in the U.S. Clenbuterol is often seized in cases that also involve anabolic steroids and other performance enhancing drugs (i.e. human growth hormone.)
Control status:
Clenbuterol is currently not controlled under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). However, clenbuterol is listed by the World Anti-Doping Agency and the International Olympic Committee as a performance enhancing drug and therefore athletes are barred from its use. At present, no states have placed clenbuterol under control.
